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Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by AKTroy, Dec 10, 2009.
Yup. I also use the standard seat, no low boy. I also use a Arai XD.
I rode with the fairing today, no rain. I am 6'3", with a 35" inseam. My seat is a custom Rich a bit taller than OEM. I have ridden the bike with the OEM screen and a Ztechnik Tall.
The OEM screen airflow was difficult as it felt my helmet was being pulled off my head. The airflow was directed low on my helmet.
The Ztech Tall was much better than OEM. A big drawback with the Ztech was its restriction to steering. I installed Ztech mirror extensions but the bases of the clutch and brake levers hit the screen. I tried to remedy the conflict by rotating the levers, no luck. I later installed 20mm risers, no change. They just hit the screen on a slightly different spot. I have been in contact with Ztech and they hinted they had a bad batch, who knows. It is my understanding they will be sending me a new screen if anybody is interested I will have it available for a reasonable price. My feedback to Ztech was I felt the screen was raked too far aft.
As far as the TT fairing I am quite happy so far. The fairing creates a different shaped shelter than the Ztech. With the TT the calm area is taller and more narrow than the Ztech. Also the boundary between the calm and the airflow is less severe. IE, with the Ztech the distance between calm and high speed air was very small. With the TT the boundary is "soft". In other words, the air flow is hitting me about the same spot as with my Ztech, but the air in that spot is much softer. My shoulders however are getting stronger flow than with the Ztech.
Another observation of note is I was feeling the air around my body and especially my head and didn't notice much difference a few inches above my helmet.
I was running the spoiler in the most upright position. The first trial I had the fairing canted forward, the second aft. I need to do that again before I can speak on the difference.
I hope this may help. If you are in the Seattle area and are trying to make a decision regarding the purchase of this fairing you are welcome to ride my bike.
Questions are welcome.
Yes, riding the spoiler in the fore or aft positions do make a very big difference I have found. I like it because it is very quick and simple to move the position of the screen. So, it's hot, your offroad ? Down she goes, on the way home it's raining or cold ? Up and foward it goes.
I tested mine with an Arai XD which is notoriously noisey and sensitive to the wind.
Again, is it an overpriced piece ? Hell ya, TT has some nerve, but does it do the trick ? Yep. Drink a 12 pack, wait 15 minutes for it to fully kick in, then push the "BUY" button.
I installed the Desierto 3 Fairing about three months ago and have put about 400 miles on it so far. Drofwaves's description is a good representation of my experience. The Desierto fairing is a great improvement over OEM however it is a bit expensive. The only improvement I would add at this point is wing nut screws on the adjustable wind shield. This would make adjustments easier and more secure.
Arent your adjuster nuts large knurled type ? I find mine very easy to loosen and adjust. What I would like to see it a knurled mateing surface between the fairing and the screen. I cant help but wonder if the screen will beging to slide back after hours of wind balst pushing it back. The 1200GS had this type of thing.
Yes, I have the large knurled adjuster nuts and they are fairly convienient to loosen and adjust. I'm thinking it would be even eaiser to adjust with a wingnut set up. Especialy with gloves on. I like the knurled mateing surface between the fairing and wind screen idea. That would work great What would Touratech do with out us?
Or, how about using a neoprene washer in lieu of the metallic washer supplied.
If you don't like that idea, glue some 400 grit to both sides of the supplied washer.
I'm going to try the neoprene idea.
I also thought of the sand paper , emory cloth idea too. I think it'll need something for sure.
As much as I'd like the Desierto 3 ... the price is just outta reach at the moment ...
I'm wondering if anyone has tried the new adjustable screens from Wunderlich and/or Madstad yet on an F800GS or F658GS?
Followed your advice on this one DP, and i didn't even drink! Don't get me wrong, it would have helped but I was at work and now REALLY can't afford to get fired! I'll post thoughts in a couple of weeks.
It was a matter of time, but I finally pulled the trigger. On the ride back from Seattle to Vancouver I tried about 6 different positions at highway speed (no helmet beak on) and pretty much all of them were better than every other option i've tried so far... and believe me i've done lots before.
Just went out today and had helmet beak and goggles on and hit the highway. I am more than impressed. There is still some wind vibration at speed but i'm going to try some vinyl trim on the outer shield and see if that makes a difference. Even if it doesn't I am still one very happy (and broke) camper.
Will hopefully have pictures soon.
Ha, I bit the bullet and placed my order last night too. Shipped today. TT is probably wondering why the sudden influx of orders...
Whatchu talkin bout Willis? Please explain the vinyl trim thing.
When I bought my 'PowerBronze/Metal Mule' screen, it came with a tinted vinyl U channel that you attach to the edge of the screen. In theory it reduces buffeting. I seem to recall trying it on that screen with it on and off and it did seem to make a bit of a difference.
If you look at your stock bimmer screen you will notice that it has a roundish shape at the outer edge. Same thing. Most aftermarket screens are thermo molded and straight cut and I think BMW probably uses an injection mold which gives them opportunity to create the extra shape on the edge.
This has been discussed a bit...
I don't think I have heard anything conclusive one way or the other...
Note that the price $12.90 is PER FOOT with 3' minimum, but it does come with money back guarantee........
The stock screen on my 05 955 Tiger caused the air flow to hit me right about eye level and created major buffeting.
I thought this stuff looked perfect. I only needed to move the air flow an inch or two.
If this stuff moved the air flow at all, it moved it somewhere between 1/8 and 1/4 inch.
It might have gotten the air flow up to between eyebrow and eyelash level but it did not help.
I really do not think it helped at all. The buffeting was just as bad after installing this stuff as it was with the bare windshield.
So going back to the original topic... does the D3 fairing work well on the 800? I had it on the 1200 and it was fantastic.
I've got it on mine (650twin) and just got back from another longish ride and I completely love it. have had about 4 other windshield variations and they don't come close.
I still think some of the awkward little turbulance comes from the bottom sides and travels up. I made some 'wing' attachments for the stock 800 shield and it made a big difference. I might mock something up for the D3 and see if it makes it even smoother.
I've got some different fasteners ordered as an alternate to the slightly knurled round plastic tightening knobs. I'll post a report when I get them and if they work I'll post where I got them from. They're about $1.50 each.
Oddly enough i'm almost preferring the lower position on the highway too.
Had a chance to ride almost 200 miles yesterday with the Desertio and Jame's revised F800 masterpiece.
It works. And it gives the bike an awesome look. On the way out to the BMW open house we were on dirt/back roads. Shield down. On the way back, we took the slab due to time constraint. Shield up and foward. I was able to ride at 80mph with my helmet shield up.
The only problem is, and I did foresee this happening, was that the D3 shield will begin to push back due to the vibration and the wind pressure.
The Renazco seat is awesome. Absolutly no foward slant. Nice, comfy and level. And looks like it belongs on the bike and not on a Harley dresser.
I had emailed for some pics of his new version, is this the new version? or is this the older version? I am just trying to see a few before I order. Thanks