Designated GPS unit Vs Smart Phone

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by NJDirtRiders, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    i like osmand and orux
    you can use OSM maps in orux also, just download the file and put in the maps folder
  2. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    Mobac , when you start the new Atlas, select oruxmaps sqlite database from the choices and do not rename the directory after it is created. Move the entire directory to /storage/sdcard1/oruxmaps/mapfiles/ or wherever you're puting them in, and it will work flawlessly. Orux renders faster than Osmand, but doesn't have a turn by turn option for navigation (without handing off to Google navigation or sygic) like locus or osmand do.

    The only database oruxmaps will read from mobac is "oruxmaps sqlite", from my experience. It will however read and render vector maps very nicely, and a few choice garmin maps too :D


    I think you will end up with osmand or locus as your goto. I wish sygic had more customization, but it's pretty basic and locked down :mad:
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    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    Locus maps had a huge update today. Just a heads up :thumbup:
  4. SloMo228

    SloMo228 World Class Cheapass

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    I had a Commando 3G for a couple years, used it frequently on a RAM mount for navigation. That is one seriously tough phone, you'll be happy with it. When I upgraded to the 4G version, I beat the hell out of the 3G trying to kill it. It stood up to everything short of a full overhead swing of a sledgehammer before giving up the ghost. Batteries don't last long, though, so you'll want a way to charge it while riding. I used a "SlipGrip" brand mount for it - it was the only option at the time (and may still be) that wasn't a universal-style mount. Easy to pop the phone in and out, and it holds tight. Never had an issue with the phone coming loose, even over many miles of rough dirt roads.

    I used Osmand on mine, but there are other programs out there too.
  5. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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  6. worwig

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    Are you saying the Locus now has offline routing?
    What vector maps do you use and where do you get them?
  7. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    Locus uses brouter for offline routing, or mapquest for online, neither of which requires a special map type. I prefer brouter, but mapquest is fast and decent. If I were plotting a long trek, during in a coffee shop, mapquest would be the nod, and it works well with only 2g connectivity.

    Vector maps are available from the online store, which is built in, download the entire USA at once http://www.osmmaps.com/maps/united-states , or download state by state http://download.mapsforge.org/maps/north-america/us/

    And don't overlook this section in the map settings:
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    As there are a bunch of great contour and hill shade views optional.
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    Don't forget toy can import and edit tracks/routes right there on the application too :thumbup:
  8. EmmEff

    EmmEff Long timer

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    I just downloaded the entire 1.2GB Canada OSM maps from the link you posted above. I am using brouter for routing. When I navigate to an address within Canada, the route calculation is perfect but when I display the itinerary for the route, the street names do not appear. Is this a problem with the map set or something else?

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    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    Wuuuuu ? Hummm?

    I don't think I've looked at the itinerary function before you pointed that out. It's the same information in my maps as yours, so I don't think it's a map problem, but that brouter is designed to give routes, not street names.

    If you must have street names in the itinerary, you can use osrm, or map quest s the routing service, or just use osmand as an alternative. Osmand shoes the street names in the itinerary:
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  10. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    Also, osmand will be integrating live tracking next month. Take a look at the OSMO option in the latest nightlies. It should be pretty slick to show GROUPS of people in real time.

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  11. professorkx

    professorkx Been here awhile

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    Just installed this on Samsung S5. Easy to use. Adding a .gpx file required that I just hook it to my computer and copy/paste the file into a sub folder of Locus. I actually created a new folder called "Imports" and put my tracks in the new folder. Love the Map selection, and have looked at several options, including mapquest and USGS.

    The only thing I have not figured out is how to remove the track from the map once it's imported. If anyone has the hot ticket, post up...

    I also order the three pieces for my Robo mount on the Tiger 800xc for $50 delivered. Will test the package on a trip as soon as the Robo mount arrives.
  12. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    No track/route showing
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    Pick a route/track
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    Tick it's box
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    Route will show on map
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    Touch route on map
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    Press hide
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    Our go back to routes and deselect
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    Route is hidden
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  13. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    ohgood

    I'm still with garmin until this one dies or my needs change. But ohgood posting in this thread makes me believe that even a non-cell-phone-owner like me might be able to install and use navigation software. (I mean eventually -- after cell service gets as far as my home.)
  14. professorkx

    professorkx Been here awhile

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    Ohgood, thanks. Once I saw your screen shot I was able to dig deeper and find it. Now I just need to test it on a real ride...
  15. EmmEff

    EmmEff Long timer

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    You (still) don't need cell service to do what we're describing here... if you use offline maps and brouter
  16. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    Yes, thanks. I may get a tablet for wifi, etc. in the next year or so.
  17. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    If your home is without cellular service, your local is the envy of quite a few people. Enjoy the lack of idjits while you can. :thumbup:
  18. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    Short rides of a block or two seem to work well for finding annoyances and bugs.

    Plotting a route with and without navigation or guiding is a really good teacher for me. A quick glance at a red light or intersection sure is nice.
  19. EmmEff

    EmmEff Long timer

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    I just find that having the street name is useful, especially in densely populated areas where I've never been before. When two streets are in close proximity to each other, I've found myself on the wrong one when blindly navigating by "turn right in 300m", for example.

    As you suggested, OsmAnd works fine here (but I prefer Locus Pro right now)
  20. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    the wrong street or one street off thing... yes I do that a lot.

    the one function that I depend on in locus and osmand is the ability to zoom to speed. I've left<10 mph set to zoom level 18 for quite a while now, and each faster range one zoom level lower.

    the only good thing to consider is that if you're in a dense area of population, you can switch to osrm or map quest for the navigation routing and have all your street names displayed.