Diesel Wrangler in. 2016

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  1. IDScarecrow

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  2. UnderNewOwnership

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  3. Bueller

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    One model year earlier than I expected. I thought it would show up in '17 when they release the new Wrangler.

    The likely cost premium is too high with too little return.
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  4. Neil E.

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    Interesting, but they'll probably do something stupid like make it "auto only", so those of us who prefer sticks will have to pass on it.
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  5. AtlantaViking

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    Yeap, a diesel in that is really attractive, but take an already pricey rudimentary vehicle and tack on that much more and I'm out...too bad, great combination of stuff I want.
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  6. KiloBravo

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    I like that combination also, what would that make the fi-anal price $59,000 for a Wrangler.
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  7. mr openroad

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    too little to late for me I just cannot get past the fact Jeep and Dodge are no longer american owned/made. :dunno
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  8. Holaday

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    Have been waiting for years for the Hilux in NA or reasonable alternative. Pulled the trigger on a new Sprinter in January should be here next month. Got everything I wanted but 4X4 and a manual transmission.
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  9. DriveShaft

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    The only way I see that working out mainstream for them is if they spec it out to be more powerful than the 3.6L gasser. But the numbers I'm seeing does not paint that picture.

    Then again, I imagine they're pacing themselves, recogninzing that the penetration will not grow instantaneously. I suspect they're figuring on low volumes for several years, as the niche folks fill out the majority of their orders. So much easier to drop prices, vs. Increasing them.
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  10. Bueller

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    The numbers absolutely paint that picture. The diesel is down 45 hp compared to the gasser, but up 160 foot pounds of torque!
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  11. Bueller

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    With the average cost of a JK Unlimited Rubicon at $40,000, I figure adding 3 model years and the diesel premium will make it cost in the range of $50,000 depending on options
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  12. a1fa

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    inflation.
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  13. BCC

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    Be a rocket to 60.
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  14. BeeCeeGS

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    The trick will be to find enough people to eat the depreciation on these things. I'm sure there will plenty on Advrider clamoring for used examples that are 2 years old with 20k of mileage for....maybe 10 grand or so?:lol3
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    If current trends continue there won't be much depreciation. I'm on Wrangler #6 and have been buying them off & on since 1994. I speak from experience.

    My '09 Rubicon was purchased new. I drove it for 3 years and 10 months, put 37,000 miles on it, and just traded it on a new one in December. I bought the new one under invoice - not always the easiest deal to get on a new Unlimited Rubicon nowadays - and got my original purchase price on trade. Since I had financed the last one at 0%, my total cost of ownership for nearly 4 years was a few oil changes, an air filter, and $500 in skid plates and rock rails I didn't bother to remove before trading it in.

    The others haven't been quite that good, but haven't been too far off either. If I recall correctly, the greatest depreciation I've ever taken on one amounted to about $1500.00 per year.
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  16. troidus

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    Truck prices are crazy. I remember my mom balking in '79 over the $12k price of a stripped Jeep (didn't even have a soft top) when she could get a Silverado 4x4 for $8k. She didn't do that, either, opting to keep her '77 Scottsdale she gave $5700 for new.

    America needs a $9000 sedan and a $4500 pickup.
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  17. Bueller

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    You can sill get a $9000 sedan and a $4500.00 pickup, but they are heavily used. The days of getting something like that new are way past us.
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  18. Ursa Major

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    Truck prices haven't changed in 34 years, only the dollar has.

    $8 k in 1979 = $24.9 k today. I see plenty of 4x4 Silverados advertised for less in the paper every Sunday.

    $12k in 1979 = $37.3k today. That'll get you a 2 door (to be consistent) Rubicon 10th anniversary edition at MSRP. A stripper 2 door Wrangler Sport is $23.2k, and it even comes with a hard top. You're way ahead of the game with the Jeep.

    Nostalgia ain't what it used to be..
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  19. troidus

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    That's not the only thing that has changed. My mom bought that truck on the wages of a restaurant cook. Good luck doing that now.
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  20. ragtoplvr

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    when you factor in the extra cost of the motor, extra cost per gallon of fuel, more expensive maintenance, the payback of a diesel is quite a bit longer than I desire. If you have to buy ad blue, then it moves out a bit more. They simply do not pay off well at $5.00 ish a gallon. Now at the Euro price north of $8.00 the equation changes.

    Rod
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