difference between 990 and 990 R?

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by Rodknee, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. dirtbikebagger

    dirtbikebagger Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2012
    Oddometer:
    89
    Location:
    minneapolis mn
    Im pretty sure in 2012 the only difference is the ABS and the computer mapping. the previous years R were taller, but now theyre all the same... (pretty darn sure)
    talking to a dealer down in Texas Saturday, you can get all the power for a half hour of labor with the R mapping in the standard 990.
    i just bought a 990 adventure because i couldnt justify the price difference between the two. also i have found out i realy like abs... that skinny front tire on the road likes to skid without it.
    #21
  2. Bootsy

    Bootsy Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Oddometer:
    136
    Location:
    Italy.
    all right....but
    2009 R has got 265 mm,as the S version.

    from 2010....they became 245mm
    :clap:clap
    #22
  3. catalina38

    catalina38 Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,791
    Location:
    Stingray bay CA.
    The ABS is the biggest difference since the newer models have boosted power and the R models have reduced travel. The differences are less and less.
    Here are some facts from the HOW

    Adventure Suspension Travel:
    2003-04: 9.0" (230mm) - "S" 10.4" (265mm)
    2005-06: 8.3" (210mm) - "S" 9.65" (245mm)
    2007-08: 8.3" (210mm) - "S" 10.4" (265mm)
    2009-10: 8.3" (210mm) - "R" 10.4" (265mm)
    2011-12: 8.3" (210mm) - "R" 9.76" (248mm)

    Adventure Seat Height:
    2003-04: 34.6" (880mm) - "S" 36.0" (915mm)
    2005-06: 33.8" (860mm) - "S" 35.2" (895mm)
    2007-08: 33.8" (860mm) - "S" 36.0" (915mm)
    2009-10: 33.8" (860mm) - "R" 36.0" (915mm)
    2011-12: 33.8" (860mm) - "R" 35.2" (895mm)
    #23
  4. Alleycatdad

    Alleycatdad Unbunch yer panties!

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Oddometer:
    1,448
    Location:
    True Norcal, not that Bay Area/Sacto Crap...
    When you look at changing susp height, don't forget to include the cost of a longer sidestand/ centerstand as well.

    Steve
    #24
  5. dirtbikebagger

    dirtbikebagger Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2012
    Oddometer:
    89
    Location:
    minneapolis mn
    just got a call back from my dealership in MN (im trying to schedule a computer remap to the R map) and he confirmed all 2012 models now have the R mapping, and his guy at KTM says you can put the R map into the earlier ecus with great results.
    suspension is still different but not as tall as it used to be.
    #25
  6. The Griz

    The Griz Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,851
    Location:
    Minnesota
    From KTM USA website:

    2012 990 Adventure:

    Power: 113.3 HP

    Front suspension travel: 210mm (8.27 inches)

    Rear suspension travel: 210mm (8.27 inches)

    Weight without fuel: 209.5 kg (461.9 lbs)

    2012 990 Adventure R:

    Power: 113.3 HP

    Front suspension travel: 245mm (9.65 inches)

    Rear suspension travel: 245mm (9.65 inches)

    Weight without fuel: 207 kg (456 lbs)
    #26
  7. duckboy810

    duckboy810 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2011
    Oddometer:
    252
    Location:
    Cincinnati, OH
    what kind of tire is that with the red stripe looks pretty sweet

    #27
  8. Sumi

    Sumi Long timer

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,897
    Location:
    Hungary
    It's a Mitas C-02
    #28
  9. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2004
    Oddometer:
    30,482
    Location:
    Western Mass
    The difference in suspension travel is about an inch & a half. For a big bike like this the 8+ inch travel of the regular version isn't lacking but if you really need the extra travel, go for it. You can turn off the ABS on the regular but if you don't ever want it, even on the road, then yes it would be more convenient for you to not have it in the first place.

    You're coming across a bit like making an excuse: "Oohh I so want one but only if it's an R, and an R costs too much, so boo hoo, I can't get what I want, there's not a cheap conversion." If you want an R and thing you really need one, then get an R Or shaddup, LOL!!!).
    #29
  10. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2005
    Oddometer:
    4,638
    Location:
    East Med, Greece
    You could exchange your suspension with an older guy's suspension. That is what I have done, with no cash involved.
    Cheers.
    #30
  11. bigkuri

    bigkuri Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Oddometer:
    958
    Location:
    London, but am a Kiwi
    It's a Mitas Stoneking. It's on my narrow rim though, won't fit the OEM wide rim.
    Best tire I've used in the 990 off-road, hands down. Paired with a trelleborg army special on the front. Bit iffy on tarmac. The stoneking has very hard compound so it does not throw knobs off like some of the other options.
    #31
  12. duckboy810

    duckboy810 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2011
    Oddometer:
    252
    Location:
    Cincinnati, OH
    i can definitely see that tire performing well and roosting everything within 50ft :D. I was thinking the rim looked skinny and know i havent seen that tire on any adv's

    #32
  13. HDen

    HDen Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Oddometer:
    32
    Location:
    Quebec, Canada
    My problem is the other way :-) I'm looking at a used 2011 "R" for sale. I tried the 2012 STD Adv and it's OK with the 860mm seat height. The "R" seat is 35mm higher...could be too high for me, I'm only 5'-8 1/2" :huh. What can I do to lower it close to 860/865mm? Installing a std Adv seat version will help I supposed? Next step would be to change the springs lenght in the forks? Thanks!
    #33
  14. ADVTuga

    ADVTuga Paulo Lança

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2008
    Oddometer:
    320
    Location:
    Portugal
    Is it a C-02 120/90-18 ?
    #34
  15. FakeName

    FakeName Wile E Coyote SuperGenius

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2007
    Oddometer:
    2,046
    Location:
    San Diego
    Ride it to San Diego and we can have a suspension-swap party.
    #35
  16. licascurtu

    licascurtu Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2011
    Oddometer:
    172
    Location:
    Vancouver BC
    Lots of good opinions about this ....I'll put mine out there too. I ride a 990 adv on all terrains: heavy off road and currently from Canada to Ushuaia and back. I'll say that for me the abs it's a must on the road, I'm 100% positive that most of u wouldn't have the balls to squeeze the brakes as hard and as efficient on an non abs bike like on a abs bike.(u can put a switch for the abs and once u flip it it will stay off all the time...u can stall it whatever) Off road I tried the S and the R models and with proper suspension adj are better than the stock 990 but still much easier to throw the stock 990 around at low speeds.Biggest advantage offroad on the S&R is if u wanna do crazy stuff where clearance is an issue.
    That being said... I'll change my suspension to an S model but that's just because I take my 990 on stuff most people go on 450's
    #36
  17. chrish4ku

    chrish4ku Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2009
    Oddometer:
    945
    Location:
    San Leandro, CA
    I just transformed my 990 to the R height. The ABS was something I wanted after my street crash. It's some $$$$ but worth it

    <a href="http://chrish4ku.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2011-KTM-990-Adventure/27809668_BHCzn2#!i=2427641884&k=v6dHFLf&lb=1&s=A" title="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug"><img src="http://chrish4ku.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2011-KTM-990-Adventure/i-v6dHFLf/0/L/DSCN1963-L.jpg" title="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug" alt="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug"></a>
    #37
  18. Rodknee

    Rodknee the post is mightier than the sword...

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2010
    Oddometer:
    4,193
    Location:
    new friggin york
    ooh, i forgot about this thread...

    after much deliberation, and the fact that my inseam is totally against the R, i ended up getting this beauty for a steal a few weeks ago.

    [​IMG]

    got 2 rides on it so far, and going out for a ride shortly. very very happy so far. :clap i already put a carbon windscreen, frame guards, pulled the peg rubbers, heated grips and a HDB setup (thanks paul!!) on it, and am fighting the urge for woody's wheels, exhaust etc.... thanks to the OC for the past, present and future help with the big girl! :freaky
    #38
  19. stevodadevo

    stevodadevo What happened?

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2010
    Oddometer:
    176
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Congrats! I LOVE the white ones.
    #39
  20. two trackin fool

    two trackin fool Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,621
    Location:
    Mobile with any Luck if not Michigan
    Yes the white one's are sweet !
    #40