Dilemmas Dilemmas

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Mr Wiggly, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. Mr Wiggly

    Mr Wiggly Been here awhile

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    Today I went to drive the GS 700 before pulling the trigger on a special BMW custom order program I am eligible for. While there, they had a 1200 GSA, and I thought I would take it for a spin. I was expecting it to be huge after everything I had read, but it had a lowered suspension, so even at 6" tall, I could flat foot it. The ride was sublime.

    Would I be able to flat foot a standard GS? They didn't have one there other than the GSA.

    Now I am torn on what to buy.... Yet again.

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  2. marty hill

    marty hill The Energizer Bunny

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    I'm 5' 9" and flat foot a non lowered 12GS. 6 foot tall, you should be able to flat foot any BMW.
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  3. Perth305

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    No dilemma ... go the 1200 or expect to start kicking yourself about a week after getting the 800. I had the same experience when I first went 650!!! Now proud owner of 1200gs and wish I done that from the get go. Would have saved me a few grand
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  4. Mr Wiggly

    Mr Wiggly Been here awhile

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    Do both of you gents enjoy the GS over the GSA? When you read the forums, everyone seems to say they end up with the GSA, but it doesn't seem necessary to me.

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  5. Stevek6thou

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    Go the GS if you don't need the extra fuel, my 15 GSWC Felt high when I first got it but after 8000km the suspension has settled and it's a flat footer on one helmet setting I have just set the height to 1 helmet one bag and feels great ( I'm 6 foot neat)
    The GS will be a little quicker accelerating due to it weighing less.
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  6. elnonio

    elnonio shedding n00bness

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    I appreciate why ppl feel they must flat foot (my wife, for instance) but that really is a symptom of lack of confidence, what if, etc.
    Don't let that be the deciding factor.
    Fwiw, I can't flat foot my gs, and yes once I gently had to put it down on a downhill one way street when an idiot decided to back up and as luck would have it, my foot went in a man hole cover depression. And still I would not let that be a deciding factor.


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  7. opposedcyljunkie

    opposedcyljunkie Heavyweight Boxer

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    29" inseam here on a GS which I can't flatfoot (just the balls of both feet). I just watch where I put my feet down. Otherwise, I just love the GS series (now on my 3rd).

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  8. Mr Wiggly

    Mr Wiggly Been here awhile

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    So flat footing aside, I just gotta make a decision on the bike. Ibwas all made up on the 700, then I had to go and drive the GSA 1200 they had.

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  9. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    +1 on that. except for my 125cc bike back in the day I never had a bike where I could flat foor and must say that I hate it now.

    you're 6 fucking feet tall. How much taller did you expect a bike to be? manufacturers won't build bikes for 2meter giants, you're already above average.

    buy whatever bike you prefer, life is too short to rash on a bike that you don't respect
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  10. opposedcyljunkie

    opposedcyljunkie Heavyweight Boxer

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    I'm not a fan of lowered suspensions so I would avoid the GSA and go for the GS. Admittedly, the GSA is for taller riders. That said, apart from the tank capacity and some other accessories, the GS can do most everything the GSA can. I can do without the extra weight as well.

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  11. Dieselboy

    Dieselboy Journey not Destination

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    The F700GS is a fine bike but if you are doubting the choice after riding the R1200GS you must ask why it wasn't the first choice. From the little you've posted it sounds like you made the selections sight unseen. The problem started after a test ride. So ask yourself why you rejected the R1200GS in favor of the F700GS. Is the rationale still valid?

    Hard to help when we don't know your situation. Type of riding? Past experience? Street? Dirt? Since you are mislabeling the bikes I would guess you are coming in from a Japanese OEM as a returning rider. But the point is you will get better input with more background. Someone will chime in because they match your situation and give you a good insight.

    Outside of more detail, go with psychology and ask why the sudden indecision...
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  12. lewisjr1

    lewisjr1 Long timer

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    If you're a big guy, like larger bikes (vs. smaller), carry a passenger or an equivalent amt. of stuff, or if you ride frequent 250+ mi. days, then the 1200 bikes probably gets the nod.

    For riding < 300 mi. / day, esp. if that involves several legs or stops, one-up with little more than a tank bag, are shorter or perhaps intimidated by a bigger bike, or don't really need a large SUV style of motorcycle, then the 800 series may be the way to go.

    We read a fair amount on this board of guys who subsequently bemoan not purchasing a 1200 when they faced the exact same delimna, but this is a 1200 board.

    I've owned a couple of 1150s and one 1200, all GS / A models. For 75-90% of my riding, entirely solo, I'd have been fine on an 800. For me, I just like the bigger bikes, but that 10-25% of my riding needs is a sufficient reason for the larger bikes too.

    It also depends very much upon where and how you expect to ride. Long paths of open highway lean heavily towards the 1200; esp. if you prefer cruise control, while tight single-track and rocky terrain at low speeds, or while standing for extended periods, are usu. covered far more easily (by the vast majority of riders, at least) on an 800.
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  13. OGOBRacing

    OGOBRacing Been here awhile

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    I went with the GS over the GSA for several reasons, the first of which it was not as tall and therefore I felt much more comfortable not having to balance on my tippy toes at every stop.
    In retrospect, I might have considers adding the spoked wheels. I have worried about damaging the cast wheels in some Rocky areas.
    I don't think there's a lot the A can do that the GS cannot for most mortals.
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  14. Hog1450

    Hog1450 I use the oil you hate

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    Lack of confidence... BS. Been riding for over 40 years, more at home on a bike than a cage.
    Have you ever tried to move a bike (not running) with just your tip toes? Or been on a surface where you had to help the bike out of a traction situation? Do you know how freaking fatiguing that is on your tip toes?
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  15. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    just noticed that you are the same guy who started a color thread in the //u. if you knowwhat color to get on the boxer than take the boxer so that we'll have one less thread to worry about in the //u
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  16. Mr Wiggly

    Mr Wiggly Been here awhile

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    I had seen both and researched quite a bit, however, I had never the opportunity to drive either. I've owned a variety of bikes (dirt and crotch rockets) throughout life.

    My use for the bike is daily commuting, but also long trips. I'm fortunate to work in a profession that puts me overseas in a different place for 2-3 years at a clip, and I want to take advantage and tour around as much as possible.

    For all intensive purposes, I think the 700 would suit me, and that's why I had made up my mind. That, and I thought the 1200 would be too big (I've never owned anything this large). That said, it drove really nice and made me wonder if I'd feel the need to upgrade down the road, and if the 700 would be comfortable during longer hauls.

    Ultimately, I imagine that both bikes will make me happy. Just struggling a bit with some new information.



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  17. MrPilt

    MrPilt Alps, baby!

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    +1

    Initially bought the 800GS, had it for a year and traded it in for the 1200GS. Such a huge improvement in every regard, especially if you do 99% on-road, like I am.

    I'm 5'10" (178cm) with a 32" inseam and can flat foot my non-lowered 1200GS with no effort. Should be no problem for you.
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  18. Tor

    Tor Norwegian Viking

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    Get the GSA and be done with it. You'll thank us later :D.
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  19. elnonio

    elnonio shedding n00bness

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    you're right. I just started riding yesterday. Best of luck.

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  20. Perth305

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    I went the GS over the GSA for weight saving. Would like the extra 10 litres fuel every once in a while, but not the weight! I think next I'll go the GSA, but not till my GS has circa 100K on the clock

    Good luck with your decision, either way, just ensure you rack up plenty of miles ... Enjoy!
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