dirt rider's 450 enduro bike shootout...

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  1. snoid

    snoid 100% Okie

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    the new issue. good article.

    they picked the husaberg. said the bmw was pretty much junk and thought the husky was more of an oddly tame trail bike than a competitive enduro machine. they'd only compare its improvements to old huskys.

    they loved the crf-x, xcw, klx, wr...

    nice mods listed, the 'hot' and 'not' section is as always, tiny. i'd like to see more of that sort of info in a breakout box and hear more what the riders had to say in the official story. if you're thinking about buying any of these bikes, there's some valuable info in there.

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  2. Django Loco

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    My local Border's still only has last month's Dirt Rider mag. I was there yesterday, no joy.

    The Husky's are always penalized for weight and heavy feel. Having ridden the 450 Husky next to my own '07 WR250, I honestly didn't mind the weight of the Husky at all. The stability in sand and rocks was great, it turned well and the front stuck well in loose, off camber scree. I liked it. My buddy loved my WR.
    Jeeez, maybe we should have traded right there! My WR is more nimble in tight single track but not much in it. I could adapt to the Husky in a day of riding. But I bought my WR for only one reason: IT DOES NOT BREAK:clap I only wish now I'd gotten the 450 instead.

    Long term reliability and maintenance is another area Jimmy and company need to talk more about. They do a few long term wrap ups but should do more. I guess Moto cross guys don't care about this .... they all seem to buy a new bike every couple years.
    But how about NOW? Old Enduro and trail riders are the cheapest bastards on the planet and come from old XR's and such. We want
    bikes that fucking last and last and last. Can't afford new bikes every year!!!!

    The Honda's handling is magic .... you can get on and go fast right away.
    I've not ridden the new KX but I hear it wins the class. If/when Kawi make the KLX450 street legal ... I'm buying one. Meanwhile I keep my WR250.

    Did Dirt Rider rate the bikes? Like 1 to 6 ?
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  3. scottmac

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    I just got my copy and read the shootout last night.

    To me it looked like Husaberg 1st, KTM 2nd, KLX 3rd,
    Honda/Yamaha - your choice for 4th/5th, Husky 6th,
    BMW dead last.
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  4. snoid

    snoid 100% Okie

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    see scottmac's list. i concur with it.
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  5. MitchMan

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    Does anyone have a scan of this review they could email me? We don't get that magazine in the UK!

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  6. KLXmcrider

    KLXmcrider Been here awhile

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    Also checkout Dirt bike March issue similar 7 bike comparision test but
    instead of the BMW G450 tested the BETA 450RR.Duplicate results cept KTM/Husaberg switch places.One thing that Dirt Rider did was that they added about $1000 worth of access to the Japanese bikes.I prefer an out of the crate shootout.I may not have $1000 after the initial purchase of my choice.We all personalize our bikes with access as time goes by,but just prefer headsup comparo,tires,bars,handguards,etc,etc.JMHO...ALSO Dirt Bike tested the BMW G450X 49 state Dual-Sport version.Check it out...David
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  7. MitchMan

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  8. tarmacter

    tarmacter Been here awhile

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  9. trailtrick

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    The shoot out was in the mountains were i have a cabin and ride all the time ,we soo theme on the trails:clap
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  10. ChrisRiedinger

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    IMO, the test is not a good comparison of any of the bikes. I've only read two of the four bikes so far and the Honda was modded way out and the Husaberg is stock. How the hell do you make a comparison of bikes when you've modded their factory configurations?

    Lame. :huh
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  11. BikePilot

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    Makes some sense when some bikes are thousands more than the others. I'd expect the race oriented off road machines like the CRF and KLX to beat out the street legal ones, no surprise there.
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  12. kelsow

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    Thanks for re-hosting that for me tarmacter
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  13. barnyard

    barnyard Verbal tactician Super Moderator

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    What those shout outs told me, is that the more expensive Euro brands come out cheaper after the Jap bikes get add ons to make them, "not quite as good."

    The new Bergs, if they turn out to be reliable, look like they could be a D/S rider's wet dream.

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  14. WoodsChick

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    And putting an autoclutch on the KLX? Stupid...

    I wonder if they know a Husky has 6 gears?



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  15. DirtJack

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    Hey Trailtrick, then they saw the bike we both think should have been included in the test. :D
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  16. mulgathumper

    mulgathumper Been here awhile

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    They say the BMW has 6 gears.. It only has 5!
    So the journalistic accuracy is questionable.. and maybe the opinions expressed are the:puke1 same?
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  17. tarmacter

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    You make a good point. What do a bunch of pre-madonna motocrossers know about dual sporting? :D I am a little prejudiced though, owning 2 beemers.
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  18. trailtrick

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    you are correct i was in the 690 ,but i think after ride the 09wr,ktm 450 and 400,570 berg ,450xand klx the the 400 is first ,berg second,exc 450 3rd,and went moded i like the wr better them the crfx,all the klx i rode up to today are not to my like
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  19. mxracernumber1

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    Let me start by saying that they need to change crack dealers because theirs is selling them some bad rock.
    I have personally ridden the CRF & KLX side by side by side with my supposedly outdated TE & the TE is the beast of the pack hands' down.
    So it does vibrate a lot more than the other 2. So the KLX engine and power is very smooth, but I didn't buy the TE because I'm a freakin wussy or because I like my power to NOT be outrageus and brutal. Twist the throttle and be a damned man. Yeah, it's heavier than the Japanese bikes, but stock-to-stock-to-stock the TE makes the most power everywhere and has the best top-end by a long shot.
    It surprises me that they would compare a TE (especially an '09 model) to an XR-400 because that is precisely the first thing that jumped into my mind when I rode a new KLX-450. Damned thing might as well be white. With heavy modding, the bike is more like theTE, but in stock form, Kawasaki's got your freakin' green XR-400. Quite in fact, it's more like a KLX-400 (green suzuki) than even an XR, just lighter. Give me a break, Husqvarna has been buying ad space over the past few months? Is their page cheaper than Honda's?
    What the hell is up with "the CRF dose everything right" and "reliability is proven". Do they get the same Hondas we get when we buy one? They must have gotten the executive ones with the gold pistons. I can't even hear the damned thing idling-half the time because of that sissy-ass exhaust & the other half of the time because it's flooded like the Mississippi River. You want fries with those valves?
    The first sensation most folks get when they ride my TE is that of violence and mayhem. Images of terror and violence that have been compared to scenes from the game "Grand Theft Auto" often flash through the mind of the the innocent and unknowing. I thought it was pretty damned fast until I rode a new CRF-450 and KLX-450, then I thought "DAYUM! the TE is a rocket". O.K. I like the KLX for it's smooth power and the CRF has that awesome Honda frame, but I don't think the slowches at DR know that the TE-450 IS a race bike. I've been at this as long as they have. The difference between me & them is they get paid for their week-ass opinions. I guess my dealer did set mine up for "raceday" just like he said, cause damn it's fast and I know what is & what ain't!
    I'm not sore about them dragging my brand down to the likes of the XR-400, but I've been hearing for a while now that they play to the big spenders. This article is proof that these guys keep in mind where there bread is buttered when they pick up their pens. I have lost all respect for these guys that I thought were doing a pretty good job. I'm disappointed that they have lived up to thier reputation. I can't deal with people like that. I guess I need to send them my TE because it sure as hell aint no XR-400. I guess it could have been worse. At least they picked the HUsaberg (most expensive bike on the market). Look for some nice Husaberg DR ads to come in the coming year.
    This will be follwed eventually by a real shoot out with real results and no paid ads...
    Who here thinks they paid $7,500 for an XR-400? Raise your hands.
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  20. Reposado1800

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    Dirt Rider sucks. Believe it or not I had a subscription just for the advertising but I let it run out.
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