DIY: Steel Mesh Brake Lines

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by TrailOut, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. TrailOut

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    Hi everyone :D

    I’d like to share a video. This one teaches you exactly how to make steel mesh brake lines for your bike/car in an inexpensive way.

    http://youtu.be/j5DvKwno5d8

    "Common (rubber) brake tubes will not maintain their inner radius when the oil inside them reaches a certain temperature. Hard riding will stress the brakes making the whole line (disks, pads, oil & tubes) over-heat resulting in inconsistent or even lack of braking power.
    Needless to say that this won't ever happen with a steel mesh braking line
    " (my own words of wisdom :evil)

    Disclaimer: This is NOT a street-legal/TUV/DOT approved modification. Use at your own risk. Not recommend for ANY bike. FYI purposes only!
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  2. DudeMang

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    Good stuff! Thanks!
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  3. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    Mr. Trailout with a trail out product vid??? Shouldn't this Spam be in venders???
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  4. TrailOut

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    Thanks DudeMang :D

    @Strong Bad:

    Hi there,
    In fact we already have a thread in the vendor section.
    Although it is a company-made video, it is still a "DIY" useful to a lot of people.

    Actually, the lack of Steel mesh brakes DIYs on the internet gave us the idea to make a movie about it :wink:

    However it is not our intention to spam or go against the forum rules in any way so please remove the thread if you need to. Our apologies
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  5. HapHazard

    HapHazard Waiting for Gudenov

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    The guy runs tours, he's not selling anything here.

    If I had the pieces in my hand, I could see this being helpful.

    I imagine after a bunch of failed attempts and ruined materials, I could build a line.:lol3
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  6. t6pilot

    t6pilot Been here awhile

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    Several companies make steel braided brake lines, this is one area I would not DIY. For street bikes lines have to be DOT approved. On line the price is reasonable for both dirt and road bikes
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  7. joexr

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    He's probably got a special Portugeuse substitute for brake fluid too.:lol3
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  8. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    Who runs OIL in their brake lines?
    and
    Truthfully
    I'd rather not be on the road with a bike-motorcycle-car-truck-quad-semi that has homemade brake lines...
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  9. TrailOut

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    Well, we are all gathered here for our love for motorcycles, travelling and probably some DIY. After all, its nice to know how your motorcycle works.

    Information is never too much and I'm not exactly teaching you how to make a bomb :D
    I've tested these brakes for quite some time and so far they've preformed perfectly.

    Home-made stuff IS a risk, everyone knows that. But can you say that homemade brakes are more dangerous than homemade/home-modded wheels, spokes, axles, swing-arms, handlebars, windscreens, suspensions...?
    If ANY of those things fail you'll probably injure/kill yourself or others around you. Thats the whole motorcycle thing :lol3

    Anyway, I figured this video could be misinterpreted, that is why I was careful enough to put a disclaimer both on the video and the text description on youtube that states something like this: This modification is not street-legal in many countries. Use at your own risk and only on track bikes

    But please, for God sake, delete this post if it goes against the philosophies of this forum! It was meant to be a contribution to everyone's knowledge, not a statement of my struggle against the laws of men or a threat to anyone's safety :waysad

    @Joexr : Not cool man. Isn't that an unnecessary attitude considering we are all part of the same worldwide family? :freaky
    Besides, maybe one would do better with a "portuguese substitute for brake fluid" than with a 35.000miles old brake fluid that was never substituted due to lack of mechanical savvy :amazon

    Just to be sure (will be added to the first post as well) :
    This is NOT a street-legal/TUV/DOT approved modification. Use at your own risk. Not recommend for ANY bike. FYI purposes only!
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  10. 2 SPOT

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    i dont see anything wrong with the vid or the parts used,,, they are after all, designed for the purpose shown. same with AN fittings on water, oil and hydro lines.
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  11. Motomedic

    Motomedic Over-caffienated Raconteur

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    I've built many a brake line with the parts/method shown. I would not hesitate to send a customer out the door with these lines installed, with the one big caveat being that the lines were CORRECTLY assembled. Having said that, it isn't very difficult to do properly. And while I prefer 5.1 brake fluid in my brake systems, really it's not that far from "oil". Many bicycle brake systems use a form of mineral oil, branded "Magura Blood" from the manufacturer. Guess which one. :D

    Some of you guys crack me up with your insistence on "DOT-approved", "would-not-DIY" attitudes. How in the world do ya think CUSTOM stuff gets done?
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  12. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    By somebody who knows what they're doing, not by somebody who saw a video on how to do it:deal:fitz

    :lol3
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  13. joexr

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    Brake lines are Not expensive to begin with. Why bother making them?
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  14. TrailOut

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    Sometimes it is not a matter of price, is a matter of liking to DIY.

    Regarding the price, its about 70% cheaper.
    Since we we had 10 bikes with 2 brake pumps each, made sense. About 600,00€ worth of sense :D
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  15. rbjenterprises

    rbjenterprises Just wandering in SW VA

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    I just spent an hour on google looking for the correct combination of words to lead me to a US site to purchase hose and ends. Any ideas out there? I did get sidetracked a few times and learned things I did not know I needed to know.
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  16. joexr

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    I've made things you haven't even thought of yet. The price is STILL cheap. I'll bet you use BOTH sides of toilet paper too.:rofl
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  17. señormoto

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    Yes, they're totally different items with different safety and structural requirements.

    Botching a front brake line on a motorcycle usually equates to death vs a blown suspension or spokes or other modded item =/= death (or != for you SQL guys out there).

    Why take the chance? Real brake lines are made in machines that are calibrated, tested, verified, and then Q/A'd for safety. Making them yourself is negligent at best and asking for an accident.
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  18. ttpete

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    That's only true for you and for others with the same level of expertise.

    I've been making up hose assemblies for many years. Never had any problems. Aeroquip and Earls have detailed instructions online that must be followed exactly.

    You'll find assembled hoses are used on most racing applications. They are also extensively used on aircraft and are FAA and MIL approved.
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  19. joexr

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    Level of expertise has nothing to do with it . You're CHEAP.:lol3
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  20. ttpete

    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    Not at all. For custom build work, it's the only practical way. Stainless hose ends aren't particularly inexpensive, either.
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