Dl650 Hack

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by brstar, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    Lights. Hmm crooked screws.......
    To bad.

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    A little square box for tail lights.

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    Wiring is fun to find.

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    Luggage box with hinged lid.


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    Look it pivots out of the way

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    MK1 locking machanism failed. will try again.
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  2. FR700

    FR700 Heckler ™©®

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    LED taillight or festoon?

    Digging the indicator and front marker lights.



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  3. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    The tail light is a stop tail LED $15, the indicators a mate left in the shed a while back are both indicator and park/clearance light.
    The back one I will wire to flash both LED's.
    He hit a Roo :p3rryyesterday so he may want them back.
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  4. FR700

    FR700 Heckler ™©®

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    Oooh, LED :tb I'm liking that. A lot. The style reminds me of the generic Hella ones you'd see on every box trailer.

    The build's coming along nicely :thumb

    Bummer about Skippy, but it does happen. At one time no sooner had I built an outfit and taken it out for a long test ride that Skip,' or several of his mates at the same time, would charge the outfit.

    It's quite the thing to see a mob of ten come hurtling out of the long grass at short notice on an intersecting path :lol3


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  5. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    Did that with a mob of goats out near Paynes find on the DL pre chair.
    Only hit a couple.
    Finnished up laying in the dirt wondering how they all dissapeared so quick.
    Had to much camping gear on so it was a pig to pickup.
    Unusual day that, latter I was heading down a dirt road in I suppose genuine station country (outback)
    Came across a station owners wife walking down the road.
    She'd had a flat and could not crack the wheel nuts.
    So I got her to climb on top the load to ride back to the car, a k or two.
    Swapped her wheels.
    She'd wanted to pay for my time.
    No, other than Cuttle :hide we help the fair ones when needed especially and even the not so in the bush.
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  6. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    Ok I went to the shops with lights and indicators.
    The new battery was flat from messing with the lights. The headlights stay on with the ignition here. I did charge it honest.
    Solution? Roll start down the hill. Easy.
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    The front left indicator beside the tyre (little round white dot) and the left rear the same, clashed somehow electrically.
    I had the rear to flash only and tried to set the front as flash and clearance light.
    They have 3 wires and theoretically 2 circuts.
    Maybe they earthed to the frame as well as through their separate earth wires.
    Did not seem to work anyway.
    So I found an old truck clearance light and put it on the shock mount there.
    It had an ordinary globe in it which I replaced with a complete LED indicator the same as the 2 on the front of the Strom (wiskers)
    Then just hooked both circuites in each indicator to light together. All circuits now work in harmony.
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    Pretty pleased with the ali box I made some years (10?) back.
    Hinged it one side and set the height so the lide sits flat on the indicator lail light surround (solid).
    The box easily hinges 180deg and is easy to remove or lock on.
    I wonder what stresses get passed through it as the frame flexes.
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    Towbar for my dinky trailer.
    I can just see myself heading to Bunnings when I build my house.
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    1st load... hey I buy the cheap stuff on a given day usually.
    Could possibly fit more.
    Oh and I need to get a piece welded into the hole on the left.

    The ride to the stores.
    I moved the chair wheel alignment at some stage since my 1st test ride.
    Made the thing a little squirrelly.
    Only some times though.
    It is not the sort of machine to ride hard at all without a lot of practise. Even then not really.
    Will set it up again soon to see how it goes.
    Need more doing as they all do.
    Wife wants some bodywork fitted......... It will be minimal.
    Maybe as tall a screen as I can manage.
    The ali box most likely will hit the bike at full left turn. May not be an issue.
    Yep and do not put the left foot on the ground.... No not at all.
    How do I know this? Not tellin.
    I can put my foot on the chair frame when at the lights though.
    It is once again a very different machine to pilot
    Needs a more planned approach and deliberate operation.~
    Cheers
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  7. brstar

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    So put some air in the shock......just on 400psi
    About half that for the chair as there are two shocks there.

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    Loaded up a few fence posts a big toolbox and rode down to my block to put them in.
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    Now the ride?
    With a load on it rides smootly but the laws of phsysics is always in operation and it makes me aware of it at all times.
    It was a bit squirrelly the other day because a couple of bolts were loose.
    Sio I tightened them and reset the sidecar wheel to about a half inch toe in over the bike length.
    With the air shocks pumped up and the preload on the forks wound in all the way (stock springs but emulators set softish)
    I headed towards my block of land with my load of short posts and large toolbox. ( a goodly weight)
    Now how to describe this?
    With a normal sidecar when you accelerate from standing start and when coming to a stop.
    The sidecar pulls the bike towards it or pushes away from it.
    So you counter steer as needed to maintain your course.
    But with the leaner there is another whole layer or so of actions resulting in reactions.
    Counter counter steering?
    Or was that the other way around?
    Lights are green for go.
    Accelerate while riding the clutch for that little extra to get it moving. (I need to change the gearing)
    Bike pulls toward the chair. (Leans also)
    Gyroscopic reaction means the bike with some assistance from the rider then starts to lean away from the sidecar.
    As speed increases and the rate of accelleration decreases there is a gradual adjustment made.
    Change gears and repeat with small variations.
    When stopping somewhat the reverse is happening.
    Now in the suburbs here the local government decided that since some people exceed the speed limmit then we must all be guilty.
    And therefore they install mindless chicanes and speed bumps in odd and random locations.
    On a bikie I slip through with no impedance.
    In the 4wd I slip through at times 2 or even 3. ( I have reasonable spacial awareness, the tyres get very close to the kerbing)
    With the leaner I have to setup and execute deliberately.
    With a fair amount of body english and some up front counter steering.
    Moving the whole outfit to each side and back again.
    I seem to run more revs and lower gears as well.
    On the freeway it ran along very nicely without having to physically hold it straight. (bodes well for country trips)
    There is more of a sidewind affect.
    Though constant crosswind or camber variations are easily adjusted for.
    So more automatic (gyroscopic) and manual adjustments needed than bike only.
    The laws of physics demands more respect and deliberation in throttle control/ cornering/braking.
    By the time I was close to home again I was starting to get into it.
    Long term?
    We will see.
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  8. FR700

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  9. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    A side issue here.
    The tale of 3 trailers.
    Rewiring one of my trailers ( I have successfully done the other 2 with LED's)
    Soldered wires according to the little charts (plural) that the LED lights came with.
    Feeling pretty pleased with the job............ until the indicators did not work.
    Plugged the other trailer in as it was parked right beside me.
    Indicators work a treat.
    Test the pins of the socket at the car and only get the little LED clearance light I'm using as a test light to light on the parklight terminal.
    Plug the other trailer again............ all lights work.
    Back at the trailer lights I swapped wires with the taillight wire and the indicator.
    Seems enough to power one set of lights but not enough for the indicators on the new lights. The park lights work however.
    Confused.... I am.
  10. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    LED lights are polarity-sensitive. Switch the ground and the power circuits, then try again.
  11. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    Probably good advice but I already tested for that when I swapped wires.
    The lights have an 1 earth wire 1 taillight, 1 brakelight and 1 indicator wire.
    Earth goes to Earth here and the tail light works so the problem is upstream a bit.
    Maybe enough juice for the other trailer but not for this set of lights.
    Possibly in the connections to the car loom.
    Just frustrating is all.
  12. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    Its an older bus a holden Jackeroo 96 (Isuzu trooper in the states.)
    I bought it 2005? Not long after I got rear ended.
    The insurance replaced the roobar and the towbar (I got shunted into the 2 week old car in front)
    The guys that did the towbar must have cut the wire to the towbar from one side.
    And just twitched it back together.
    Now replaced and soldered. I have lights on my trailer now.
    Oh and they did not colour by numbers properly. So now I have to check my other trailers out.
    Bit confusing really.
  13. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    And that it seems is how its done.
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  14. Bobmws

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    Jeebus! Don't let Luke see this, he'll be firing the Leprechauns, Bear and probably Nigel for leading him down the path of twisted tubing! :eek2
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  15. DirtyDR

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    Hack in a Box.
  16. FR700

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  17. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    Last week?
    Working at heights ticket,
    Confined spaces ticket though I swore I would never do that.
    Reading the gas meter to go with confined spaces.

    Today a High risk forklift ticket.
    I 1st started driving unsupervised a machine with hydraulic lifting capabilities (tractor) around the time the Beetles 1st visited Oz.
    Actually was never supervised just told to go drive the tractor, self taught you might say.
    I struggle with JSA's and occ health & safety stuff.
    Reminds me of the Irish bricklayer I met a few years ago.
    Him to me in response to his labourers hissy fit.
    "How hard could it be! all you have to do is pick it up and put it down!"
    Totally destroyed my esteem for the "trade" of bricklaying.
    I got away with telling that one to the class today.
    Forklifts are similar without the effort.

    Been making a site box shed shelves thingy.
    Made with laying about stuff by the local layabout.

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    Was not sure about going in the front door for a bit.. It felt like being watched.
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    The lass that adopted me ten years ago in Cambodia as her dad, had her 2nd recently.
    I shall have to go visit the grandies hopefully this year.
    One of lifes unexpected turns.
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    She called him Luke :wave

    Sidecar? Hmm put the side covers back on the bike?
    Might unbolt the seat for a while and just bolt. a tonner toolbox on I have somewhere.
    Was actually tinkering with a perspex screen from the floor up with a couple of curves in a sort of stretched "S".
    Reversed that is looking from the left.
    The ali box is in the way of the lean of the bike so unless I lay it down which would work but not as convenient as the existing setup.
    May take it for a run to Albany soon to see my engineer who since doing my plans last year has had time to move to the country town.
    Design and build himself a house and move in.
    Might wire a few dodgy bolts 1st.


    Oh the council decided the current abused plans meet the R codes:baldy.
    Now to get working drawings without to much "input" from the drafty.
    Proffesionals seem to think they know best.
    So far I have had to contend in some way with all 5 levels of government in Australia starting with Corporate.
    Just so a bloke can build himself a house on his own piece of dirt.
    Cambodia is looking good, just pay the bribe and get to it.
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  18. FR700

    FR700 Heckler ™©®

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    The poor bastard.

    Congratulations, poppy :thumb
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  19. FR700

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    How's the outfit shaking out, Bruce?
  20. brstar

    brstar Been here awhile

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    Hmm plenty ideas........
    Inspiration....
    Motivation..
    Its a hoot to ride though.
    Been doin other stuff but stand there and look at the thing in between times.
    Needs gearing change, I was thinking going from the current 2.93 ish to about 3.5 to 1.
    Mainly because 1st is fairly high same as most road bikes.
    Any local outfits make custom sprockets?