Do loud pipes save lives?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by DAKEZ, Apr 29, 2011.

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Do Loud pipes save lives?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. ghostdncr

    ghostdncr Burnin' daylight...

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  2. Zerk

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    If you are ATGATT, why would you not want something adds some safety? If you won't risk riding to the grocery store without a chest plate, its seems either poorly thought out or hypocrtical not have loud pipes.
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  3. Zerk

    Zerk DILLIGAF

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    When I am on Harley sites, I take more of the opposite arguement. Its no fun when you blow sunshine each others bums all the time.
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  4. McJamie

    McJamie STROMINATOR

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    A couple of things.
    First off, where is the majority of the noise? Behind you.
    Where are most of the things that are going to be a potential problem for you?
    In front, or at least as you approach it.
    Also, a friend who is a paramedic pointed out to me how few people actually pull over when they hear a siren. Usually the emergency vehicle is almost on top of them before it registers on them. So then how exactly would a loud exhaust be even remotley effective in preventing a colision?
    I work for a company that does motorcycle training, very similar to what the MSF does in the U.S. On the backs of our shirts it says "If loud pipes save lives, imagine what learning how to ride that thing would do".
    Do I think loud pipes save lives? No.
    Do they piss off your neighbours and make you look like you are desperatley trying to compinsate for something?:muutt
    Absolutley.

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  5. Ronin ADV

    Ronin ADV Gear addict

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    Loud pipe = pathetic attention whore. Regardless of bike. It is as deserving of ridicule and contempt as a neon-colored, lowered Honda Civic with tail fins, no muffler and oversize subwoofer blasting shitty music. Just like seeing a grown man wearing black leather chaps or some pseudo-stunter crotch rocket jockey in shorts, it always induces the same sort of reaction in me.
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    You have got to be fucking kidding me.
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  6. blk-betty

    blk-betty bam-a-lam

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    First time if happend to me.

    Been riding on the steet now cummulative for 15 years but only consistently for the last 11. Ten of those 11 years have been on HDs with louder (but bafled) pipes. Picked up a Triumph Tiger 1050 6 months ago.

    Today while riding the Triumph on the interstate in the far left lane running about 3-5 mph faster than those in the right lane, I had a guy in a mini van change lanes right into me when I was even with his rear bumper....his blind spot.

    I hit the brakes hard and when he was about 3/4 into my lane he saw me and jerked the wheel and moved back to the right lane and jestured that he was sorry as if he didn't see me.

    That has never happend while riding the louder Harley and I posted earlier in this thread where I as a auto driver have done the same a few times and felt like crap for doing it to another bike rider.

    Do loud pips save lives? Dunno!

    Do loud pipes get one noticed? More often than not!

    Are noticed bikes less likely to be run off the road by cars? I have my opinion and you all have yours!
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  7. blk-betty

    blk-betty bam-a-lam

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    I do think it a little ironic that some claim, form one side of their mouths, that loud pipes are pathetic attention getting devices; and from the other side of their mouths they claim that the noise generated is only audible when the loud bike is in front of them.

    Maybe bikes down here in the south are just louder than eleswhere but I assure you if you have decent hearing you will hear them behind you a few seconds before they pass.

    If you can't hear it behind you, it's not a loud bike.
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  8. GoGoGavin41

    GoGoGavin41 Isn't this that guy?

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  9. alvycolt45

    alvycolt45 Adventurer

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    The next person that uses the excuse "Loud Pipes Saves Lives" had better be wearing a full face helmet, fully armored gloves, boots, pants and jacket all in a high visibility color.
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  10. NJ-Brett

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    I have spent 37 years riding on the street, never had a really loud bike, although in the old days they were louder stock I think, and I NEVER had an issue with cars or trucks.
    I don't ride at times and on roads that I think its stupid to do as its highly unsafe.
    A bike has to be really loud for me to hear it while driving some vehicles.

    My current bike is VERY quiet, and its nice.
    If it was loud, it would NOT sound good.
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  11. windmill

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    There isn't one.

    Some will complain about anything louder than a stock Goldwing, Some think a top fuel dragster is just right.

    I know it's a rare commodity but a little common sence could go a long way. Straight pipes and open cans aren't going to win you any good citizenship medals.
    If your exhaust is louder than stock, be gentile with the throttle when around people or when folks are sleeping.
    If your exhaust is stock or slightly louder then you don't have to worry about it.

    There is a time and place for everything, and good manners is just treating people with the same respect that you would want to be treated with, not that tough to figure out.
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  12. Zerk

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    I still don't know why the ATGATT Nazis don't have loud pipes. They won't risk riding to the grocery store with out armor, but something else that may help them once in awhile is bad.
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  13. Zerk

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    Thats pretty arrogant.
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  14. Ronin ADV

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    This argument is senseless. Trying to link ATGATT with loud pipes is misleading at best. Choosing protective clothing does not aggravate anyone unlucky enough to be within earshot. If loud pipes were truly a safety thing then the same riders might actually use other safety technology, like full face helmets, or decent riding gear. But sadly no this just doesn't seem to fit the "Look at me, I'm a badass" image they are trying so hard to project. It's all a bunch of poser BS.
    This is not an anti-Harley position by the way. I find loud pipes and throttle blipping just as obnoxious on sport bikes. I would also make fun of a GS rider with a half helmet or black leather chaps. But hey, if someone really wants to look like Freddy Mercury, who am I to deny them that right? :ymca :lol3
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  15. SgtDuster

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    ATGATT is taking control of your own safety. By yourself, for yourself. Doesn't make a change to anybody else's life.

    Loud pipes is annoying for everybody around and induce a false security feeling, counting on a change from somebody else's behavior just because they suddenly hear you (if they actually hear you anyway).`



    They have eyes to notice you on the road and this doesn't prevent them to make a left-turn right in your face so you really think that some noise will change a thing?
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  16. SgtDuster

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    ATGATT is taking control of your own safety. By yourself, for yourself. Doesn't make a change to anybody else's life.

    Loud pipes is annoying for everybody around and induce a false security feeling, counting on a change on somebody else's behavior just because they suddenly hear you (if they actually hear you anyway).`



    They have eyes to notice you on the road and this doesn't prevent them to make a left-turn right in your face so you really think that some noise will change a thing?
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  17. JDLuke

    JDLuke Ravening for delight

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    Or else what? :ear
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  18. Mark38

    Mark38 Been here awhile

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    Pass Left, Drive Right and you would have avoided the whole problem

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  19. dbuzz

    dbuzz Citizen of the world

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    Loud pipes don't save lives ... that's the job of the emergency room staff !

    It is the frequency of the sound that alerts the prey to the danger. Low booming sounds are hardwired into the human psyche to be the sound of danger and increase the alert response. Higher pitched sounds tend to blend into the background noise.

    Not something I'd rely on to save me bacon. I'd rather use my brain than someone elses
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  20. Zerk

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    I wore chaps and 3/4 to the Arctic Circle. Had the chaps on the entire time I was in AK and YT, just to stay warm. But I wasn't on a GS, so I guess its ok.

    My point was if loud pipes even add a small amount of safety, then I think they would fit in the ATGATT.

    People keep getting off track, bringing up complacency or pissing people off.


    I am curious what people said about muscle cars back in the 60s and 70s. I suspect we whine more now.