DoD Rider Safety Course requirement

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Beezer Josh, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. Beezer Josh

    Beezer Josh Moto-Amish

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    Hey guys, I gained access to work at a DoD facility last week and would like to continue riding to my new job. I spoke to several people who all gave me different answers on the requirements for riding on base. 2 of 3 said I would need to take a rider safety course and one asked if I had taken one before. Does anyone now if the DoD has their own course, or could I use my MSF basic course card from years ago (I found it tonight!) to satisfy this requirement?
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  2. cwadej

    cwadej Keeper of the truth

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    DoD uses MSF courses. Contact the base safety office about the course. If it's a large base, it may be hosted by the command.

    PPE requirements will vary greatly by service and base, so again, the base safety office is the best place to start.
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  3. avc8130

    avc8130 Long timer

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    What this guy said.

    I got to take the MSF Advanaced course...DoD paid, they paid me to attend...and I got "continuous learning points" to boot!

    Talk about a GREAT day at work. It happens about once in 5 years.

    ac
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  4. dwestly

    dwestly Refuses to Grow Up!

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    I teach MSF courses under contract for the local base. The requirements for riding on base differ according to installation, command and service. You will need to check with the base or local command safety office. They can give you the requirements. Some bases/commands require you attend upon assignment or reassignment to an installation. In some cases you may be able to present a recent MSF BRC (Basic Rider Course) card and that will suffice. If you ride a sport bike (variously defined by each command or service) then you may also, in addition to the BRC, have to take the MSF's Military Sport Bike Rider Course (MSRC).

    The genesis behind this is that a few years ago, the US military saw a huge upswing in military service personnel motorcycle-related deaths. At one point the USMC was losing more soldiers to motorcycle crashes than in combat. These course requirements are designed to lower the crash rates. Recent studies show that the effort is in fact working.

    Bottom line: Check with your individual unit/base/command safety office. They will give you the requirements. Also, the course(s) should be free, arranged through the safety office and taught either on-base or off-base at a contracted school. In either case, the instructors will be MSF-accredited RiderCoaches.
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  5. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    Varies wildly, ask the pass office what you need to do.

    Where I work all you need is basically a lid, eye coverage of some sort, and shoes that cover your ankles.

    No MSF requirement and NO fucking stupid vest.
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  6. sdmichael

    sdmichael Long timer

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    A fair amount of those USMC that died were from Camp Pendleton and mostly on Palomar Mountain. There should be a CC limit for military personnel. After all, they are, for all intents - government property - and should be restricted. Too many "big boys and big toys" with no sense or brains.
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  7. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    They would be just as stupid with a CC limit, just in a car instead of a bike.
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  8. Jim Moore

    Jim Moore Long timer

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    Hi. Fuck you.
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  9. dolomoto

    dolomoto Destroyer of Motorcycles

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    There's a discussion on DoD requirements and ancillary issues here.
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  10. JonU

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    I may not be USMC, but I am military and I would have to agree with Jim Moore's statement.
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  11. CopaMundial

    CopaMundial Wow, that broke easy

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    +1. Except for the "Hi" part.
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  12. majlee_vmi

    majlee_vmi Tidewater 41009

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    What Jim Moore said. Fuck you.
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  13. TrattoRAZ

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    +1 for Jim. I'm ok with the "Hi". Nothing wrong with being cordial, even if a there's a difference of opinion.
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  14. UnsureFooting

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    We need to bring back the draft. Too many morans with no idea who joins or why, no personal stake in the service, just opinion page BS.

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  15. cakmakli

    cakmakli Made It - Army Retired

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    Yeah, what Jim said.
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  16. dwestly

    dwestly Refuses to Grow Up!

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    I refuse to sit by and take this one. As a war veteran, I am now officially tired of the seeming proliferation of idiots who refuse to recognize the sacrifices of our military personnel. Since you seem to think our soldiers are just "government property", I suggest you voluntarily put on a uniform, separate yourself from your family, get yourself out to a war zone or other third world shithole and serve your country. While you're at it, don't forget the possibility of being wounded, killed or worse (in my mind), permanently disabled.

    Our soldiers are sacrificing themselves to defend the right of people like you to shoot off your mouth? Learn some respect.

    (My apologies to the general board readership...I snapped.)
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  17. klaviator

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    These guys risk their lives to protect your freedom and now you want to take away theirs.

    Or we could just recruit a bunch of sissies who don't do dangerous stuff like this. Lets see how well that works out in combat.

    And +1 more to what Jim said.
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  18. havoc1

    havoc1 Big Bikes, Little Brains

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    Enjoying the dogpile here.

    SDMichael, you sure you aren't a senior officer or staff Sergeant Major? Uncanny how that was almost word-for-word the kind of mindless-knee-jerk-drivel-substituting-for-lack-of-leadership-ability I'd expect coming from that direction. How many PT belts are you wearing right now?
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  19. HillbillyfromAL

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    LMFAO I'll 4th or whatever we're up to

    What Jim Said!

    I was Army, and for you USMC Guys Semper Fi Brothers


    One should not sacrifice liberty, for a false sense of security.
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  20. DarthJ

    DarthJ Been here awhile

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    Lol, right on, havoc1!
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