Does the world need a BMW G310GS?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Eddy Alvarez, Apr 22, 2016.

  1. k12rsrdr

    k12rsrdr Adventurer

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    After reading all the available reviews for the GS it seems the number one complaint is vibration. In general, professional reviewers, in my opinion, are somewhat slanted toward favorable comments and downplay some the negatives of a new bike. But you hear about the vibration over 5000 rpm a bit and some complaints about the soft suspension being an issue on the pavement. So, I think these are probably real issues. Build quality seems to be the universal plus comment from reviewers and they are pretty astounded that BMW can offer the bike at such a low purchase price and with a great warranty. The value quotient is going to be high. Is it going to be a near perfect bike. Probably not. At the end of the day, I think we as motorcycle enthusiasts are fortunate to have the new GS310 as a option...
  2. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    From my research it is brakes and Suspension.

    I threw out the Carole Insurance data.

    Vibes at 7,000 rpm is going to happen for a thumper.
    My boy from Romania said 7,000rpm. Or 120kmph. ~75mph. Totally expected. Anything else would be Unicornish.

    Most riders say the R is fine until you get to higher speeds. I'm not sure about the 5,000rpm having vibes that take away from the ride.

    I do not think the MIGHTY DR can even get much past 7,000rpm.
  3. WoodWorks

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    My dealer, who test rode the one R he's had come into his shop (which is already sold), told me that the vibrations on the 310 at highway speeds are noticeably less than on my current F800GS. And I don't find the vibrations on my bike at all egregious. But maybe I've just learned to ignore them after 84,000 miles.
  4. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Mgazine bike reviewers are spoiled. They should try riding an SR500 for a woods bike and an XS650 for daily transportation for a few months then get back to us on "vibration".
  5. Jollyrogers

    Jollyrogers Been here awhile

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    Or a KTM 640A
  6. bigmo

    bigmo The Great White North

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    The 640A was like butter compared with the RXC 400 or worse yet, the 620. I did one really long adventure ride in Wyoming - 1000 miles on the bike and it took weeks before I knew if all my feeling would come back ion my hands and...ummm...more important regions.

    So to me, vibs are all about perspective and frame of reference.
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  7. mylastbike

    mylastbike Been here awhile

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    Vibes from a small displacement thumper will be inherently less because there’s less rotating mass. As we all know, you can’t have it all. I’ll just put my Airhawk on it and float on air.


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  8. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    I think the reviewers were all expecting zero vibration. It's counter balanced and 310cc they can't be that bad.
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  9. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    This is a hardy squad of Inmates!

    Good point on the smaller displacement have less roatating masses.

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    We know how great the value is and all, but here is some bad press
    http://driving.ca/bmw/new-car-preview/suv/first-ride-2018-bmw-g310gs

    "However, it’s not all praise for the G310GS. A couple of riders had mishaps earlier in the day, which provided some informative revelations. One is that the G310GS doesn’t crash very well. In one case a bike sustained substantial damage after its rider washed out the front end on a gravel road. Admittedly I didn’t witness the crash, but it seemed like a relatively minor spill since the rider’s street gear wasn’t torn or otherwise damaged, and he was completely unharmed.

    The bike fell on its right side and the muffler had pushed into the swingarm, its mounting bracket bent. The handlebar was bent significantly, too, but the most revealing damage to me was to the master cylinder. The brake lever bent upwards without breaking, but it also bent its mount at the master cylinder, causing the lever to swing up and down excessively and requiring eventual replacement of both parts. This type of damage tells me that some of the alloys used are soft—or maybe not, since I’m not a metallurgist, but as a former mechanic I’ve seen my share of crashed bikes, and master cylinders can usually survive such punishment."

    My take on that is, bikes are not designed to be dumped on their side. It's a soft roadie, not a bush pig.
    Put knobbies on the tyres, to prevent such issues, or tread carefully.
    She is very budget bike at that price.
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  10. bigmo

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    Unless the bars are some knockoff (which I doubt), it takes a very solid dump to bend modern fat bars. Based on the front and rear damage, it sounds like the guy thrashed it pretty hard.

    On my MUCH more expensive Africa Twin, I just BARELY (like ever so slightly) clipped a rock with the footpeg and sheered the whole foot peg hanger and side bracket clear off. Try riding with one peg 70 miles from a real road...

    Lesson learned. Don't try to make ADV bikes contact the ground.
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  13. bigmo

    bigmo The Great White North

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    Nice find!

    I was wondering what batter. DEKA ETX9 is right at 8 pounds. The lithium equivalent is < 1. That's a SOLID 7 pound savings!

    Better stock up on some 3M headlight guard material. The headlight is $637!

    Accessory socket only $48.

    Optional seats are $391. Ouch!
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    300Versys optional touring seat $590 ,Power outlet $159 Heated grips $317......They are all the same , they're out to lighten your wallet.
  15. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    From the initial reviews, I'm fairly impressed.

    The continued delay will be worth it for a lot of future owners.

    She has a 1up All-Rounder vibe to her.
    So she will check off a lot of boxes for Riders.

    I think a lot of current thumper owners will consider replacing their old bikes with the GS.
    Some beasts owners my want to down size.
    From the base CRF250L, to the DL650XT, and everything in between, she will take sales away from.


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    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    I'm not so sure it will take away sales, more like generate sales.. I mean we have more variety now than ever before right ? That makes it easier and more appealing for the rider to get almost exactly what they want for a second bike. And easier for newbies to start out right because they can get what suits them. People aren't stuck with one or two choices in the under 650 segment anymore. The general pricing of the under 650 segment is pretty appealing too.
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  17. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    FWIW Mrs. Mudd wants to book a test ride on the Versys X-300 and the BMighty Duck.
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    Regarding the damage from the crash in the aforementioned review, wouldn’t a set of Barkbusters prevented the majority of the damage? A set of hand guards is a necessity for almost any degree of dirt riding, so I’m not surprised to see damage to unprotected controls. I’d like more info about the handlebar damage. Is the writer sure the bars weren’t just twisted in the triple clamps? If the bars are truly soft material, a ProTaper is an easy upgrade.


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  19. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    They crashed the bike then blame the bike for getting damaged.

    I'm going t o go check JM for a fantasy versus realty and bullshit excuses thread.
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  20. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    Good stuff



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    Published on Sep 29, 2017Essai BMW G310 GS 2017 - BMW décline son petit roadster A2 en moto passe-partout avec la G 310 GS. Comme la G310 R, elle se veut accessible et propose une nouvelle porte d’entrée dans l’univers du trail.


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    My big take away from this are that the tyres are plenty good.
    Compared to the way I ride on forest service roads, this guy is moving with a purpose.

    Also, BMW did a great job on picking the venue for this launch. Excellent terrian. Basically, what a Subaru can do, only much faster and fun. That's all we are asking for.

    Alloy wheels are fine with that mass and Suspension travel. Cuts done on MSRP and is easy to change out.
    This is like a miny Dl1000!
    A bike we need, not want.
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