Does the world need a BMW G310GS?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Eddy Alvarez, Apr 22, 2016.

  1. Traveller128

    Traveller128 Been here awhile

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    Was just at the Boise BMW dealer looking at an F800GS, and spoke with the general manager. He just returned from the BMW sales meeting, and the U.S. pricing for the 310GS was announced as $5999. They had 3 G310R's last week, and are down to 1 and it's probably sold. He really likes the 310R, and was hoping the GS was going to come in around $5500 or so, but BMW announced the higher price.
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  2. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    The video of Das Madchen riding the GS and getting air is up.

    Let's watch

    :lurk



    At the 8:16 mark, I was impressed with what I saw.


    Granted, the Suspension on the DR650 is fine with me too. That pretty much proves I'm a light weight and do not push the bike hard when on the dirt.
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  3. bigmo

    bigmo The Great White North

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    That makes Canada the best priced GS (potentially) globally. At current rates, the $6450 CAD 310 GS is right at a grand cheaper in CA vice US. IMO, BMW should have came in around $5250 USD. I believe folks look at $5250 as "cheap" and $6000 starts to feel like a major purchase, and it also puts you fairly close to the entry level "real" BMWs.
  4. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    $5,999 is good to go. She is right in the mix. Riders who do their homework, State Side, will be ok with that price. The Sertao was $8,650 in 2012. And in 2011 the base 650 was $7,350. It's still showing on the USA website for $7,995.

    From an article in 2012:
    What would you do with an extra $2,351? Even at today’s high prices, you could fill your gas tank hundreds of times. You could buy new gear from head to toe, a wish list of accessories, or you could fund an open-road odyssey for months. If you’re in the market for a new 650cc dual-sport single, would you use the money to buy a BMW G 650 GS Sertão ($8,650) instead of a Kawasaki KLR650 ($6,299)? Would it be money well spent?

    The Versys X 300 ABS is $5,699

    HOnda Rally ABS is $6,199

    DR650 is up $50 to $6,549. No one should agree to that MSRP. $5,549 MSRP is plenty.
    50/50 dual sport/platform bike

    KLR650 $6,699.
    buy and ride ADV TOURING Thumper.
  5. O-Man

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    $5999 OK, now when does it get to the US?????
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  6. bigmo

    bigmo The Great White North

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    Are the Versys and CRF really selling at those prices? I recall seeing several folks talking about prices in the lower 5's. If the 310GS has an absolute segment competitor, the Versys 300X seems to be it.

    I put my hands on a 300X (or X300 or whatever). I believe it will do everything I want it to do. The problem is, it was just so darn dull. Like 2003 Toyota Camry dull...it felt far more vanilla than I had planned. Didn;t get to paw on the GS, but I DID get to paw on the R. That bike got my heartbeat up and was downright sexy to look at!
  7. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    See, this is exactly what I posted not long ago.

    Gate way MC.
    They are improving self-efficiency of new riders.


  8. Traveller128

    Traveller128 Been here awhile

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    I think BMW is pretty good at marketing. The 310 fills a hole in their lineup, and that's the entry level bikes for folks that may not have been riding all their lives. Then they have the 700, 800 and larger bikes for rungs on the ladder. They do this in street, ADV and sport touring segments. They still aren't building dirt bikes, but the other stuff is pretty well covered.

    The dealer I spoke with last night also sells Husky and Royal Enfield. Really nice guy to speak to, and he welcomed us to bring our riding gear back when we come into town Saturday and take an 800 for a spin.

    He didn't have a hard date on the 310GS but did say later this fall was what they were told. The 310R's went quick, so I'm thinking the segment has been under-represented enough that people are excited about the BMW entry. The price point on the R is decent, and the GS is okay, but should be $400-500 more than the R, not nearly a grand in my opinion. The dealer was hoping for $5499-5599. There's just not enough extra stuff on it to justify the margin, I think it's just the "ADV" market is hot right now and they're maybe profit taking a bit.

    If I could get my wife on one of these, I'd pick up a used V-strom and we could ride back roads to the gravel. It would be cheaper than buying an F800, Africa Twin, etc to ride 2 up which is what we're shopping now.
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    Lesson 5: BREAKING

    Seriously? :lol2 Don't they have copy editors at BMW?
  10. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    Good post.

    The price is what the market can bare.

    The R model has to competes with a lot of naked bikes.
    The CB300F is $4,149.
    The R is $4750. But has ABS.

    The GS just competes° with the Rally ABS and the Versys X 300.
    Switchable ABS and the improved Suspension is worth the 3 hundred more dollars from the ABS X 300.

    To be fair the Rally is a stretch. The GS has close to 40% more horses, but the GS fits in-between the two.
    Hopefully, the 313cc and 373cc from Western Europe will help create a escalation of displacement.
    Right now Honda is out gunned... but they do have an engine in their table of equipment to call upon.

    A thumper with a 400cc is the final solution.
    And not the 2001 DRZ or BS4 Royal Enfield Himalayan.

    °The Mighty DR is right in there too, seeing how the horsepower, mass, and price is about the same. Torque characteristics is way off.
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  11. Cuttlefish

    Cuttlefish Riding to disappear.

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    But there's no getting past the fact the DR 650 still looks like an 80's farm bike.
    :snore which is a shame.
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  12. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2013 DR650

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    A pot belly dirt bike is what I see.

    90mph speeds is what I call a big farm!

    Where are you located?

    Ohh, wait,
    In A Big Country.


    As I was.
    Carry on.
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  13. eakins

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    Is that a for-shadow of it's reliability, a Fruedian slip? I hope not!
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    Trust me there are tons of us waiting too for the update...might never happen and then It's gone.
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    I'm hoping a spoke wheel version is shown at EICMA!!!
  16. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks House Ape

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    Me to!
  17. ktmmitch

    ktmmitch Long timer

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    You mean like this......................

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  18. KDB

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    That's more like it. Real or unicorn ?
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    OMG..! Is this what you are aiming for at RR ktmmitch?
    This seems amazing..! :-)
  20. Limey-1

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    Looks Very nice... but that front fender ugghhh...gotta go.....first mudder will put you on your arse for sure!