Dr pulley... what are those "+ 3 pcs Slide"??

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  1. slow-vee

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    Highly unlikely . . Google Images
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    they slide the metal back plate up and down and such. you DO need them.
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    They are 'Ramp Plate Slide Bushings'. And, yeah, you do need them.

    There should be a worn-out set on your OEM Ramp Plate.
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    how did your sliders work out for you. I purchased a set the same weight my rollers were and they acted like 1.5g less so I revved like crazy taking off and lost 10mph top speed. Almost like I should of bought 1.5g heavier then what I was running and at $30 too expensive to experiment with
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    My DR Pulleys worked GREAT!

    I added them to my People 250 and it removed the dead speed in the middle of the range and I have added about 10 MPH, or at least made them easier to get to.

    Use the chart at this site http://tinyurl.com/286tflt to get a good fit but sometimes you need to move up or down.

    If you put the sliders in like this!

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    The CVT will be buzzy and may be speed limited and the belt may feel like it's hitting the case.

    put the sliders in like this:

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    I put mine in the wrong way...twice!

    Mine did not come with the the U shaped bits so I still have my factory ones. They work. I have since replaced my damaged sliders (the ones shown above) with new ones and WOW.. the bike will accelerate from 60-80 with confidence on the freeway. Not like a rocket but with enough pep to make able to do it on the freeway in traffic, at night into the fast lane with three lanes of traffic on your right and a semi in the mix. Not bad for a 250cc CVT scoot with my 2-up sized butt on the scoot.

    WOW..my 500th POST! :clap
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  7. Mikegigabyte

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    Mine came with instructions and a pic but I even tried them the other way just to see if I had them wrong but it wouldnt shift at all the wrong way.
    Just too expensive for trial and error and of course the e bay store I got them from never responded back with any help. I have no problems with rollers and thought since I had it set up perfectly then I just put in the same weight sliders but some how didnt work out for my application I guess
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  8. White Tenere

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    Ordered my Dr. Pulley 17g sliders a week ago and they should be here anytime!!! I cant wait to put them in:clap

    I would stay away from ebay when ordering Dr. Pulley stuff there was a warning issued by Dr. Pulley/union material about counterfeit sliders/product being sold under their name on ebay.

    I ordered direct from the company:
    http://www.unionmaterial.com/products.htm

    They answered all my questions via email super fast and helped me pick out the right weights for my 500ie..

    service@unionmaterial.com
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  9. Mikegigabyte

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    Mine look legit but ive never seen them before, e bay. Came in 3 days too

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    Yours look like the real deal. :clap

    The counterfeit one's have completely different packaging... Paul from Dr. Pulley posted pics on modern Vespa...
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    WOW...little baby sliders compared to mine shown above

    Now...break open that case and get them installed.
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    I did , and they suck. You see they act about 1.5g too light. Yesterday I found that this is normal, so if you order some get 2g heavier then what your using for rollers. Wish I knew this so I wouldnt of thrown away $30
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    Try selling your"slighty used " ones on ebay. Be honest in your listing or sell them here in ADV, same way. Tell your story.

    My first set was "slightly used" and it sold me on getting the second set.

    Did you use the fitting guide on the Dr Pulley website?

    How much did you pay for these (if you don't mind me asking.)

    see this link http://tinyurl.com/3x82pv9
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  14. Mikegigabyte

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    Not sure what you mean by fitting guide.

    I have been using a whole roller tuning kit for a while now, and finally got the weights figured out. I read the sliders dont wear as bad as rollers so decided to try them out.
    I bought the correct size and followed the picture on the correct way to install, im not new to tuning ive done a ton of work on that scooter. I also tried them another direction since the first way was so bad, but that didnt work either.
    If only there was a warning stating they need to be heavier then it would of been no problems but just yesterday on another site people say you need to buy them 2 sizes heavier. If thats so then dr pulley should have a disclaimer about this, or a note or something. The second I tried them I couldnt return them, and to me I will choose never to buy from them again. Unless Dr pulley will refund me the money or swap them out. Of course I just sold that scooter last week but I will try to contact them for a swap out for my new scooter or a refund.

    I am selling alot of scooter parts here from the one I just sold http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13981821#post13981821
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  15. White Tenere

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    Not sure what exactly you mean with "If only there was a warning stating the need to be heavier"
    I found this info in a few minutes of my initial research that lighter weights=fast higher revving take offs..... Heavier weights=more top end, less rev's on the highway..


    I'm pretty sure Dr. Pulley doesn't sell direct on ebay, Paul from Dr. Pulley went online a few months ago and issued a warning not to buy there product on ebay. He asked people to contact/buy direct from Dr.Pulley to insure your getting a "true Dr. Pulley product" I found all this info on my own just a few weeks ago with a simple search for there products..

    I dealt with the company/factory directly and Paul answered all my questions and helped me choose the correct weight.

    Either way hope you have better luck with your new scooter....
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  16. Mikegigabyte

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    post above you changed your post while I was typing this one, of course you come off nicer now in the edited post

    ALso I did read about the fakes, but I was told from a few users that these were legit from the packaging. Yes they could be fakes.



    Why would I need help deciding on what to get? If I have perfect performance with 4.3g I would expect the same from 4.5

    I was only able to find a few authorized sellers first of all, and second no one sold my size.

    I dont know who paul is, and at the time I couldnt find the main website, I was looking under dr pulley for a website.

    Now last night I found there main site under union material.com
    Had to really search to find that because I didnt think that was there real site but this morning they e mailed back with some questions. Dont know who e mailed me back but I sent them more info along with the pics.

    Like I said ive read around and everyone is saying you must but them 2g heavier in order to work properly if im using 4.3g rollers the you but 6.3g sliders + -. Now if I had access to a huge amount of sliders in all different weights then no big deal, but when 99% of rollers will work using the same weight then you would think the slider with the same number would work.

    Im not some newbie that doesnt know what im doing, I dont need help. I had it set up beautifully with 4.3g rollers. It took days and may different weights to find this out. I heard the sliders are better for longevity so thats why I got them, and they dont work.

    Hopefully I can swap them out or get a refund, since I just sold that scooter last week. I did get a new one so im willing to get new sliders but I will get 2g heavier then what im using stock, unless they can guarantee that there weight will be exactly like my stock weights since im using a whole different scooter now.
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    Yes I re read it and saw that I came across as not so nice so I edited it..
    That was not my intent or was I implying you don't know how to work or tune a scooter...

    So sorry if thats how I came across, not here to fight.

    I've been riding 36 years and this is the first Scooter I've "tuned up"... I was just trying to share some info with you that I found while doing a search on sliders for my scooter. Union Material is the parent company of Dr.Pulley in Taiwan, Paul and Esther work there and answer all tech and ordering questions.


    Enjoy your scooter...
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  18. Mikegigabyte

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    Good to hear, then probably paul e mailed me. Hopefully the ones I got are legit.
    The scooter I got them for was my first scooter too, but spending 2 months working on it I learned alot on how they work. I put in a bigger engine, almost every body panel has been removed, full tranny work was done hundreds of times so I became a master at that. Tuning the motor was a first as I never worked on 2 strokes. Got it running great and never blew the new motor as I guess it happens alot if you dont rejet properly. I wasnt running stock parts so it may be harder for someone to tell you whats needed. Stock its probably easier.

    My new scooter is so much more powerful im not going to even work on it at all. It does all I want so now I can take a break from tuning and get more riding in. I had a 2005 50cc zuma changed to a 70cc. Sold that and bought last week a new zuma 125 which is fuel injected 4 stroke so I wont have to mess around with the carb or any tuning issues caused by altitude or weather. Its so nice now not having to tear into anything to adjust it.

    I just figured if I can do something with those sliders, they only had about 8min run time on them. I dont mind selling used parts that dont work out, but I had no chance with these and was totally baffled as why they didnt work out to all the hype I read about them.

    I wouldnt mind trying them on my new scooter as long as I can get the correct weight to match the stock ones I have now, or a refund if its possible. The e bay guy totally ignored my questions I had on them but he was the only one at the time that had my size
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  19. White Tenere

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    I really like the 125 Zumo hope you enjoy it..

    The guy that lives across from us just got one and it looks really fun, ADV scooter for sure.
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    Sounds to me like you did lots of different things to the scoot. I thought you were still looking for answers to solutions to problems with a scooter you have apparently already sold but you had been tuning for racing (I assume).

    Lots of missing information there.

    Normally when someone makes the comments like yours they have not educated themselves before making a purchase and have buyers remorse.

    I guess my bad for making assumptions.

    Good luck with your endeavors.
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