Well here's another screed, I'll try to shorten it as much as I can - but if I don't give enough information, the advice I get won't be as good. As I've said on other threads, I got moto fever (tm) in late spring and you know the only cure. I was waiting on my house to sell but who knows when in this market, so I went ahead and took advantage of Honda's spiffy low-rate financing and bought a CB500F. It's a nice bike, and I've enjoyed it, but I discovered that I really don't like street bikes. Back in the day when 55 was the max speed limit everywhere and I lived in an area where traffic was extremely light, a naked bike was a lot of fun. Now, without some weight to cancel out the buffeting from traffic on the slab and with the higher speed limits, I just don't enjoy it. I also don't ride it as naturally as I did a dirt(ish) bike. The house sold, the closing's next Wednesday, and now I have bike money ... and a newish bike with around 800 miles on it that just doesn't suit me well but is in fairly high demand locally. I'd like something better suited to my tastes, at 61 it's easier to change the bike than to change my habits. I can afford any of the more common bikes, but I'm slanted toward Japanese bikes as I know little about 4-strokes, and I live in an apartment and have no place to wrench on one. I've had Triumph Tiger XC fever since before I bought the Honda, but now I'm thinking that may not be the best bike for me. I like the little CRF250L, I rode one in the MSF school I took. I'd like a bit more power (my last dirt bikes were a 250CR Husky and two 400 CZs), but it's a nifty little bike. There's just no way I can trade for one, it would be like trading nickles and me adding a nickel to boot, my bikes worth more than the sticker on the CRF. If I don't get at least into the $7k range I'm going to take a terrible bath on the 500F. I don't want to sell it on Craigslist and deal with the crap I know I'll get, if the dealer will be reasonable (and I believe he will), a trade works out better for me. I knew when I bought it that I'd lose money on it, I just don't want to lose tons. Simplest solution is trade for a more expensive bike. What I'm really considering (and here's where I finally get to the point) is the DR-Z400-SM. My dirt riding is mostly going to be a little exploring of some decent forest service and similar roads, I mostly use my bike to run errands and just bop around back roads and back streets. I live in a small city with growing pains as to traffic, and being quick works a lot better than the textbook "establish your lane presence and act like a car". That last one will get your ass run over in this day of cellphones glued to ears and texting. It's a college town, too, so that latter problem is worse than other places I've been. I read the other post on SM bikes where the guy was trying to decide between the KTM and the Suzuki, but my dilemma is different, as I'll use the bike differently than him. I've been pondering this for a couple of weeks now, and what I think I'd like best is a street bike (90/10, anyway) that handles like a dirt bike. Looks like an SM fits my needs, and it's enough more expensive than my bike that I might be able to cut a deal without bringing my own lube. I'm not talking about Bel-ray. Besides, my favorite dealer has an SM and he's likely to have to sit on it all winter. If I see I'm riding more dirt and packed gravel than I planned, a set of more dirt-y 17" tires should be enough of a correction. Worse comes to worse, if I stay away from Triumph and BMW I'll have enough bike money left to buy a spare front hub and rotor and have it laced to a 19" rim, so I have a fallback plan. Flaws in this thinking? I mean, there's always flaws in my thinking, I just don't see them as clearly as others might.