DR650 vs XR650L?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Maxacceleration, Jul 11, 2011.

  1. Virginian

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    Interesting. This is the only site where the Suzi gets more votes than the Honda. I did a lot of research and rode a bunch of bikes before I bought an XR a few months back, after a long hiatus without a bike period. If I could have found a DR deal like I did on the XR I probably would have gotten one of those. I was actually looking for a 400 - didn't think i needed a 650 - since riding a friend's Suzi, but stumbled across a deal on Big Red. To me they are both good bikes and they both have pluses and minuses. The biggest difference to me - totally subjective - is that a Suzi feels more like I am riding in it than on it as opposed to the Honda. I felt the same way 35 years ago. Not a big negative, just different.
    it doesn't get much hotter anywhere than it does here on the bayou, but my Honda doesn't have a problem since I rejetted and removed the smog stuff, UNI filter, desnorkelled the airbox, etc.. Oil gets up around 250 max, but with full synthetic I'm not worried. The Honda was taller but after you sit on it, riding doesn't actually feel too much different height wise, to me. I commute daily and often buzz the interstate at 80 to the next town about 20 miles. I'm real happy with my bike so far.
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  2. tarzan30

    tarzan30 Been here awhile

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    Either of the the latter!!! just do it.. you wont be sorry about the TE or the XRR..:clap:clap

    The XRR and The DR have many many after market parts the xrl not so much! DR's are the same as the RM dirt bike series for most of the front parts.
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  3. acesandeights

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    Here are the specs per the respective websites.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    Honda 650L 37/13<o:p></o:p>
    Suzuki DR650SE 34.8/10.4<o:p></o:p>
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    Honda 650L 2.8G<o:p></o:p>
    Suzuki DR650SE 3.4G<o:p></o:p>
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    Honda 650L 346 (wet)<o:p></o:p>
    Suzuki DR650SE 366 (wet)<o:p></o:p>
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    Looks like the DR would have a lower center of gravity and starts out 20lbs heavier than the XR650L. The difference in seat height is pretty much relative to ground clearance between the two. Also, youÂ’ve got better than .5 gallon of additional fuel on the DR (which equates to 4 lbs of that 20 lbs difference, since both weights include fuel, and probably greater range with the DR). The DR, stock should get 50+ mpg (mine does).<o:p></o:p>
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  4. gjcarving

    gjcarving Been here awhile

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    Hello. Was wondering where this picture of the trail is from in NM. I live in Santa Fe and am always looking for new places to ride as I am somewhat new to trail riding. Any info on good trails would be well appreciated! Thanks!
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  5. Chillis

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    Working in a Honda/Suzuki dealer 14 years ago I did see a few XRL's come in with over heated engine failures due to people running highway after removing the elephant ears with stock jetting.

    The other issue was being dropped in the desert hitting the hard ground bending the subframe. Enough so that two bikes were total losses.

    I was with my coworker when his almost new bike was totaled when he lost control and dropped it.
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  6. ohenry

    ohenry Been here awhile

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    Well I got to test drive My brothers dr650 and have to say it is fun on the streets 60 mph and plenty left pass all day and I jumped it off road and wheelied it!
    Good stuff while a bit soft and heavy you have to keep in mind you are not buying this to single track and blitz whoops so it is fine.

    Compare it to a WR250r? While on the planet opposite they are the same bike!

    Geez

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  7. O'B

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    Dude the reason the DR gets the nod here is the amount of epic rides and trips done on a DR. I don't mean a weekend or week blast through the country. I mean long trips. Go to Ride Reports and check it out. One evample http://shortwayround.co.uk/.
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  8. JimmieA

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    In Canada the DR is worth about $5500 new I think the Honda is closer to $7500. I havn't checked lately but doesn't matter to someone from USA. I rode my DR650 3000 miles in 4 days in relative comfort. The DR can carry a heavy load as well, lots of aftermarket support out there too. I don't think it is fair to compare a XR650R to the XR650L, much different bikes the RR isn't sold anymore. If I only could have one bike it would be the DR650.
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  9. ram1000

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    I measure a bike by the ease of conversion to my style of riding. With that in mind the Honda can be made to be more reliable for hot conditions by the addition of an oil cooler. The Suzuki which I have can be made to handle like the Honda with the addition of an RMZ450 front end and Cogent extended travel rear shock. Stock for stock the Honda clearly handles better off road, but the higher stance is a hindrance to those under 6'. I have ridden both for some distance on road and personally find the Honda more comfortable for the leg room and the seat is slightly wider and therefore more comfortable to me. If I was going to Baja I would choose the Honda for the suspension if it is going to remain stock. The spring rate on the Honda is sufficient for me even at 220+ with just a little extra pre-load and the dampening is superior to the stock DR. The added suspension height is somewhat offset by the additional sag with a rider on it, so I don't mind the ride height. Fuel is a non-issue for me since neither one has enough for long distance off road. After doing air box and jetting modifications on both a the Honda I worked on was faster accelerating than the DR. The only complaint I have for the Honda is that the gear ratios are too far apart in first and second and maybe third. The Suzuki is geared just right for off road considering the power it has. The gearing can be changed out on the Honda but involves splitting the cases to do it. I understand the Honda sub-frame may need enhancing but again it is a simple matter to design a few more braces into it. The Honda has an 18" rear wheel which again is desirable for true off road riding, but with a larger tire on the Suzuki I don't mind that and the DR can be fitted for an 18" rim. The Honda I set up was for my brother who is 6'4" and he found it most comfortable with the changes I made.
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  10. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    I owned both.
    DR, by a mile.
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  11. frog13

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    The DR sounds like it is much better as a commuter.
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  12. wvdirtbiker

    wvdirtbiker MILES2GO

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    I've always been a Honda fan and had narrowed my choice to these two. Then I sat on the Honda and decided it was too tall for me, and I'm 6'3".

    That being said, it really depends on how you are going to use it. More off road, probably the Honda, less off road, the Suzuki.
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  13. AST236

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    I've owned a DR650 and two XR650L's. I have a ton of miles on my brother's KLR.

    I'm getting another DR this Saturday..........:clap
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  14. Slow Trailin'

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    Thanks for this, guys. Totally cemented my decision to get a DR650. I'm looking to put >15K miles a year on mine and it'll probably be 80% freeway with miles of straight to miles of canyon, and my off-road will be everything from fire roads to easy single track, weekend camper to week long escapades. If I can only have ONE bike (and for now, it is) the DR650 seems to be it.
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