DR650 - What top racks work with Wolfman side racks?

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  1. moto27

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    Can you help me with a list of top racks that will work with the Wolfman side racks on the DR650SE?
    I have the side racks and am not sure what top rack to get. I would like a fairly wide one

    the only ones I know are

    Suzuki OEM - NO
    Pro Moto Billet - YES
    Pat Walsh - YES
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    I have the Pat Walsh rear rake as well as the Wolfman Expedition side rakes and bags. I am pleased with that setup.

    I use strapes to secure anything that I put on the rake. I don't trust bungee cords. I have never had anything come loose using strapes.
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    They told me most racks work with them except the Suzuki OEM Rack. I have the T.C. Borrego rack and they said they will work with it. My only concern now is with the new 2nd generation racks with the third mounting point is on the exhaust side cause I have a GSXR exhaust with the Keintech bracket. I might have to grind some off the back of the bracket so the rack mount can be behind it or else you would have to space the other points out.
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    drsmiley Been here awhile

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    Yes, back on page 3674 of the DR650 Thread by TinkinWstuff. He just got them, they have just come out. I talked with Wolfman, the new are made to except a rear crossbrace so if you use hard bags they will be stronger. Also the loop of the rack that you mount your bag to is back toward the rear end of the bike more. I'm getting me a set.:clap
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    I installed the rear cross brace last night. Haven't taken pics of the brace yet. It looks good and I like how they route the brace. I hope to have my tail lights moved and ammo cans installed tonight so new pics will follow shortly.

    OP - Call dusty at Wolfman. He rides a DR650 as well and can help with your top rack question. It's my understanding that they have different spacer/mount kits available depending on which top rack you are using.
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    D-Train Dusty Wessels

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    Hey guys Dusty here with Wolfman Luggage. We are updating our site now with with the info on our new generation racks for the DR650. Since there is a discussion here I thought I would pop in and provide some information:D

    You will be able to use the following rear top plates/racks with the Wolfman Side Racks for the DR650:

    Suzuki OEM
    Pat Walsh
    ProMoto Billet
    And in conjunction with Backroads Moto (as always) we are making our own rear rack for the DR650 (not ready quite yet)

    We are providing spacer kits that work with our new generation side racks and the rear racks listed above. Like our friend TinkerinWstuff has noted he had a different rear rack than any of the ones listed and there were no problems with the mounting or the fit. Any of your results may be different based on the rack of your choice and you may have to get different sized spacers/washers for the mount to fit right.

    Hope that clears this up some. Thanks guys:clap
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    turbo city top rack too?
    http://www.turbocity.com/product_info.php?cPath=69_78&products_id=636

    the ebay bbq top racks? see pic below
    ...it looks like with a combo of spacers & longer bolts one could get all the mount surfaces to go flush, but my guess is the bolt on the rear (4th) brace does not allow for custom width spacing changes to the 2 racks? ie i space out my racks wider and now the 4th brace does not fit.
    or does it?



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    thanks!
    here's the post w/ pics for this thread
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16958849&postcount=55102
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    Dusty,
    so this begs the question???
    wolfman is a softbag company but if this rack has 4 points of attachment (and now is strong as hell) is there any talk of creating pelican case 1520/1550 mounts?

    even if not there is still gonna be the guy who does it anyway.

    you probably know another colorado company (moto sport paniers, ie dirtbagz) has stopped producing side bag racks all together for wide range of bikes and that has created a whole in the market for affordable side racks that can accept pelican cases!!!
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146117
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    Dusty on that same thought...i'd like to give why my opinion on what would be the ultimate ADV/DS rack setup and i'll just talk theory now.

    so the concept goes that when on more road based (in places with people) tours hard bags are more ideal to load gear and provide security.

    when on dirt road tours soft bags are ideal as much safer (than hard) if you crash.

    hard bag vrs soft bag is like what is the best oil argument. there are 2 strong camps and each thinks his side is the best.

    so??? what about a ground breaking new concept in side racks?
    in addition to your existing soft bag mounts, add either 4 threaded mounts to accept mount pucks or 2 top ones and a use a lower mount over bar. this is what HT has http://www.happy-trail.com/Happy-Trails-Pannier-Mount-Kit.aspx

    no one in the industry offers a rack that can go quickly from soft to hard bags depending on where you are touring.

    that would be revolutionary!
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    D-Train Dusty Wessels

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    Another +1 for the Pat Walsh/Wolfman combo. Simple installation, and no modification required to any of the racks or the bike. Very versatile setup.

    My installation here.
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    rock on!
    so what's the deal with the rear support bar if the side racks are spaced out?
    is there variability built in for various scenarios?

    currently on my bike i have have the ebay bbq rack and the factory hand holds in place on the rear upper mount bolt. that is 2 supports spaced out there that i would need to match on the other bolts. can the rear 4th support adjust for that? i'm sure 3 mount points will still be plenty strong.

    here's a pic.

    i have a giant loop coyote bag which works awesome for me for touring on rough roads but i'd love the option of easily bolting on hard bags for other types of tours. i was thinking about those ms panier racks for this purpose until i realized they were gone.

    i'll post this in the big dr thread. alot of hard bag dr users over there.

    thnx

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  16. TinkerinWstuff

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    If you look at my pictures, hopefully they show it well enough... The rack comes with spacers. So when using OEM grab handles etc, you use the spacers provided. If your top rack has a wider mount point which would require longer bolts from other rack providers - on the wolfman rack you would REMOVE the spacers or use smaller spacers.

    I.E. the racks are already designed to be spaced out and the spacers make up the difference.

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    lockable pelican case options for those not wanting to use 2 hand locks on each case. this is the 1520, which i think is the ideal dr650 size.
    http://cariboucases.com/store/?name=Catalog&mode=i&item=000013
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    oh man. i was thinking there is another optional rear bar (#4) that goes around the back fender and connects the 2 racks together, but this rack is a 3 mount point system.

    do you have side pics?
    i use my giant loop on the rear of the my seat, attached to the front of my rear rack and down to the passenger pegs. it sits on the bike side panels. i'm wondering how the racks sit in relation to this as the upper right mount area on the rack might tear into the GL is the touch.

    thnx.

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  19. TinkerinWstuff

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    I DO have the rear support bar.

    pics to follow this evening.

    What I'm saying is, you shouldn't need to change the spacing of the rear support bar when using other top racks.

    if the top rack has a wide machined aluminum mounting point, you just REMOVE the 1/4" spacer provided with the side racks.

    The racks are ALREADY spaced out. I'll get a better picture tonight or get out my crayons if I have to.

    Look at my pic above; on the outboard side of each grab handle forward mount point sits a 1/4" spacer. In the case of an aftermarket top rack, you wouldn't use the spacer because the rack mount point would be taking the place of it. unfortunately the pic is a touch overexposed and out of focus. I'll do better.
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    Genius really

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