DR750 & DR800 owners thread

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  1. MCmad

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    What youve got now is probably better for 2 up
    The 800 is Excellent solo though plenty off grunt when middly moded with a pipe etc
    Ive seen that Pic Before she looked good, How did you find it was to ride
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  2. DRglidarn

    DRglidarn Panzer pilot

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    I liked very much to ride her. She was a good dualsport. I rode her at real enduro tracks, ofcourse little heavy but absolutey doable with confidence. I loved her at curvy backroads and gravel, where I used her most. I think the chassie was well balanced for her age, but needed more engine power.

    It was a good strategy to take the GF on a long tour with her, I can tell You that it was simple to convince GF that we needed a GS Adv at the Swedish Motorcycle Show in Gothenburg prior to the biking season. :deal

    Although, I have to say that the DR800 had enough torque for touring 2up at alproads. It was the seat comfort that was a little spartan for GF...

    Best of both worlds could be the F800GS, about the same chassie and weight as the DR800 but with the desireable 35hp extra... When I test rode the 800GS, that was my first thougt. Not much have changed except the difference in power. I think that says alot about the DR chassie, It´s good for it´s age.
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  3. bluesman

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    we (me and wife) leaving kids for 10 days with her mother and on August 14 leaving for Norway (from Belgium). Two up on DR.
    Since for many years till last year I was touring on fast naked bikes and sportbikes and sometime took wife for ride and since "our" first bike was VT250F and we did a bit of touring she finds DR VERY comfortable, believe it or not :lol3
    And certainly it is comfortable for me (we both short, and my wife only 46 kg) - so when we did 400 km non-stop test drive on DR two-up my Doctor kinda did not really notice additional passenger :lol3

    I liked 800GS too, but it by far not as tough as DR when you drop it (I am offroad beginner) or hit log etc. and it's just a bit too heavy (heavier than DR with aftermarket exhaust actually). But I do believe Beemer is and will be huge success for long time, it is very smart bike indeed!
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  4. Molgan

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    Hm, my head is full of doubts. I had decided to sell the 800, just can't give any good reasons to why I should have 2 bikes that is basically the same. The plan was to get something more tarmac oriented instead of the 800 since I have the Ten for my offroad fix. This time it's for real, the bike must go.

    Wen't down to my parents place where I've stored the 800 the last couple of months, they live about 120km from here. Drove it straight to the mandatory vehicle inspection, we have it every second year for motorbikes here in Sweden, that it passed with flying colors. Took it the last 50km home and I hit a lot of those sweet curves that the 800 likes so much, it runs steady like a train and the engine just growls and throws me through the bend leaning like a GP driver. Took an extra lap around the city before I parked it at home, and I wasn't so sure anymore..

    I just can't get rid of that darn bike. =(
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  5. bluesman

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    if it runs sweet - do not sell it. Not much money anyway, right? If it has to be insured to keep numberplate - OK, give up numberplate, just keep it for a while. As for road bike - OK, I have one, the VTR. So, what? Where do you ride it nowadays? Police, speed controls, cameras, sh''t weather....
    I have not ridden my sportbike for almost 1 year.
    One of my best suprise was how DR behaved in truly serious offroad conditins - I never expected it to be that good. It's just straghtforward "honest" motorcycle with loads of "personality" :) Perhaps make a battleship rally-style offroader from it! :) Throw stuff at it that can do too much damage to brand new Tenere ;)

    or even better. 3.5 X17" rim front, 4.25X17" rim back, sticky supercorsa, get rid of ALL extra weight and use it as "hypermotard". DR is really good behaving good suspended bike for road - they got geometry right!
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  6. Molgan

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    Yes you're right. Humhum, maybe something like this, Ozeo's dr800 el brutale cafefighter:

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  7. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    That machine is spectacular. A photo should be sent to Suzuki HQ.
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  8. Ocean

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    They stroked the 750 to get 800, yes?

    Can you upgrade a 750 to 800? Just the crank?
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  9. MCmad

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    Hi Molgan, I'm with bluesman on this dont sell,
    Just took my Dr out after finally fixing the sticking throtle,(will post latter about this with picks) but anyway finally was able to give it heaps in the twisties with out risking over running the corners,
    O my Gosh are these things quick or what, I was with a my Harley and CB1300 mate,s we got to a nice bit of up to 160kph twisty section and I was gone, I had pulled the full 500 metre straight on them within 3 kays and I recon I could have gone a bit Quicker, The DR just seemed to steer perfectly Neutral and the power is spot on for these type of roads, considering I'm on Duel sport tires I'm real Impressed,

    Dont sell your baby.

    In New Zealand these bikes are very rare I only know of 1 other 800 so far in the country so I will never sell Mine, not a chance,
    I notice that other bikers cant get over the 800 single decals on the side, another friend who has a DR400SM cant seem to stop staring at my bike when he comes around I guess He's trying to figure out how a single can be that big, and at the cafe today a Guy ignored the Harley and the CB1300 and just stared down at the DR's Side cover probably trying to figure out the same thing.

    That alone is good enough reason to keep one in your garage. Chow
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  10. MCmad

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    I see your looking at that 750 thats for sale in NZ, I dont think the crank would be the way to go, I have a few links to sites I could look up for you as there lots of other mods you could do before changing the crank and the smaller motor should be able to rev further as well.
    As it says at no 1 post, up to 94hp at wheels available in extreme form and 75 hp easily available, That would make you YZ framed Adventure bike go fairly well I would think, also have we met before you seem familiar:wink:
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  11. arrowrider

    arrowrider Adventurer

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    Hi all .I've just brought myself a DR 750s ,always wanted one and finally got one :clap . Does anyone know how many are in NZ ?
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  12. ztaj

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    Thats 2 that I know of, yours and mine.Suzuki N.Z. couldn't tell me how many there are, I suppose a call to l.t.n.z. may shed some light on how many are still registered, I think were part of an exclusive club here in N.Z.

    Did you get the one off trademe ? If so it's identical to mine except I have a white swingarm
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  13. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    But he has a chain guard :D
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  14. ztaj

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    I have a chain guard :ksteve It's just not where it should be. Better feng shui tied to the carrier anyway
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  15. MCmad

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    Congats on your purchase I will add you to the owners list on post 1
    Looks Like us New Zealanders are getting a good representation here, 3 to 1 on any other country at the mo,
    You may also want to take a look at the Kiwibiker thread DR750/800
    Welcome abourd Arrow:kumbaya
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  16. Ocean

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    Yeah, looking, couldn't get down to check it out though.

    Project has been festering for a while, if something turns up It'll be on, if not I'll find somat else to play with.

    And stop staring at my arse.

    Fookin' familiar...
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  17. nave

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    Translated from the original article in the "Moto" magazine (<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>) October 2006 <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    Original article in Hebrew by Kfir Levin<o:p></o:p>

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    DRz 800 mx??<o:p></o:p>



    What do you think about a DR800 big with top of the line suspension and a drastic weight reduction? Numerous improvements and changes combined in the creation of Naveh's cool bike.<o:p></o:p>
    From the beginning I must admit that I like the DR800. There is something about this bike that no matter how many times this bike passes by me, even one that is beaten up, and maybe because of that, still makes my head turn. The comfortable seating with the absolute viewing angle, the enormous dimensions compared to any other "singles" and of course the largest single engine ever made, that in reality, is willing to perform much better than on paper. And I'm not the only one who thinks that this model is more than just another bike, here in Israel it's considered a recommended bike and has a good used market value (mainly the latter models) but in some countries it's no less then a cult bike. You'll probably ask, if it was that good, why was it stopped being manufactured in '98? For the same unreasonable causes that the Yamaha XTZ and the Honda Africa Twin were. Like the DR800, they too were born in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Japan</st1:country-region> in the 80's as a <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Dakar</st1:place></st1:City> replica.<o:p></o:p>
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    Brave heart<o:p></o:p>
    Naveh admits to be a man with a preference for "big single engines". The reasons for that are well known and we've heard them before. He has had a few bikes, some extreme than others, until he settled down with a Yamaha XT600E for efficiency and budgetary reasons, but in '97 the bike was stolen. Naveh at the time was riding only on road, looking for something that would be more comfortable on the road but the XTZ was too expensive. The choice was a standard DR800 model '93 and the ease with which the asphalt was swallowed under the "Big" tires, leaving the owner with a big smile all the way to the chiropractor (much better then the XT600E) and also on the way to the bank, thanks to the self maintenance Naveh is capable of.<o:p></o:p>
    However, Naveh didn&#8217;t even consider going off road with the enormous clumsy looking BIG. At least until he met Alon Yeffet, also a standard DR800 rider but with a fundamental difference between them: Alon actually rides the DR800 off road, just with a pair of off road tires, this fact opened Naveh's eyes and more important &#8211; whetted his appetite.<o:p></o:p>
    In a long process that included inquiries and studies about the subject, understanding the demands and the needs and then jumping into the interesting deep water of what is called - "project motorcycle"&#8230;<o:p></o:p>
    The list of modifications and improvements is long and detailed; we chose tofocus on the main parts that reflect excellence on the idea behind Naveh's choice of direction.<o:p></o:p>
    The main points to be modified and altered to fit the final product that the owner was aiming for were around the suspension and the overall weight, which is certainly the Achilles heel of the DR800, especially for one who want's to enjoy unlimited off road riding.<o:p></o:p>
    Beyond the mechanical and technological skills to do almost everything by himself, Naveh also enjoyed a great deal of luck. At some point in time Alon's DR engine gave his soul back to the Gods of motorcycles, and he gave the corpse to Naveh. Now he had a motorcycle that he could plan all the modifications, adjustments and build parts, allowing Naveh to keep his main transportation vehicle functioning. He was able to continue a creative process without pressure and time limitations, which allowed him to check everythingseveral times, as he likes to do.<o:p></o:p>
    About the weight, if you really want to go into a long description here, there is plenty to do to approach a normal off road motorcycle weight. Except for the tail plastic, nothing original stayed on. The difference in appearance and weight is fundamentally the combination of an ACERBIS plastic fuel tank (<st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="25 liters">25 liters</st1:metricconverter>) and without the special but heavy "beak", gauges and the original headlight. This created a much more aggressive look. A smaller off road headlight and a new digital speedometer (the finish is impressive), a high front fender- all these were able, thanks to a new main component in this adventurous package: an up side down front suspension belonging to a 2006 HONDA CRF450R (purchased on EBay for an relatively low price). True, it needed good hands and patience, and even some help from others, and Naveh claims that the basic matching parts of the steering axle eased thework.<o:p></o:p>
    And what about the rear part? <o:p></o:p>
    A major part of the consultation about the DR came from <st1:personName w:st="on">Stefan Hessler</st1:personName> (Hessler Rally Team) <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region>. Useful solutions came through him especially the connection to WILBERS Company,who were a supplier of suspension technology and now is an independent manufacturer of high quality suspensions for competitive prices. Apparently they will build you a rear suspension on demand - as crazy as you like &#8211; adapting the rear suspension to the rider's weight, nature of use (on/off road) and to the fact that the front suspension is adapted from a professional motocross motorcycle&#8230;and they built a shockabsorber that works in perfect harmony with the front fork. Again, the price is really not sky high.<o:p></o:p>
    There are many more interesting parts and changes, the original quiet and heavy exhaust was replaced by a light and noisy D&G, a local manufacturer (by the Eliatim brothers) Danny Eliatim also came with a solution to the problem of big single engine reversing when turning off - a cool patented invention that combined the automatic decompression for the start of the engine also when it's shut down- ingenuous and effective.<o:p></o:p>
    Other personal adjustments were cutting some of the sponge of the seat to adjust to the height of the owner, building an adapter to fill the gap between the seat and the fuel tank and others for the ignition switch and the front disk guard. A lot of do-it-yourself, and all professional, accurate and impressive.<o:p></o:p>
    It's a pleasure to go over this bike. All the parts that were dismantled from the original bike and not reassembled were weighed (as well as the new parts that replaced them). Now the bike's dry weight is 171 kgs, compared to the 194 kgs official declared weight of the bike, which is known to be very optimistic (this explains the difference between the scaled parts and the actual weight of the bike&#8230;) the short time I spent riding the bike proved beyond any doubt that there was truly a drastic weight loss.<o:p></o:p>
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    Romantic sunset<o:p></o:p>
    Maybe as someone who likes the DR800 for a starting point I'm partial, but Naveh's DR800 is really something cool, unique and exciting. Naveh is in love with the bike and he certainly has good reasons.<o:p></o:p>
    I spent about two hours off road with this unique bike equipped with Dunlop D606 tires, testing the various performance capabilities of the bike. <o:p></o:p>
    The harmony that Naveh achieved by wisely investing in a high quality suspension, combined with a drastic reduction in weight, produce a great off road touring motorcycle that actually needs a tough, continuous "enduro" trial to test it's limits. Surely you need some confidence and time to adapt to the still heavy machine, but after all are said and done, the DRZ800MAX will be happy to go airborne without real complaints.<o:p></o:p>
    The final transfer ratio was shortened a bit, leaving road cruising an efficient component of the experience- remember, we are talking about Naveh's main means of transport.<o:p></o:p>
    Overall, the project cost was summarized at a bargain price of approximately $3000, but remember that the owner's knowledge and technical abilities saved a lot, as well as the patience of finding solutions combining high efficiency with low cost.<o:p></o:p>
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    Naveh is a rare but crucial type of motorcyclist to our motorcycle culture, a project motorcyclist - and he is good at that, very good.<o:p></o:p>
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    Detail photographs:<o:p></o:p>
    1- TRAIL TECH digital computer/speedometer. Very useful and aesthetic<o:p></o:p>
    2- WILBERS rear shock absorber. With all the adjustments including high and low damping<o:p></o:p>
    3- A new self built carrier with gripping handles.<o:p></o:p>
    4- POLiSPORT Front headlight giving the bike a fresh aggressive look.<o:p></o:p>
    5- Great to look at - front SHOWA suspension, 20 years advanced from the original DR-BIG <o:p></o:p>
    6- The adjustment of the front original wheel, disk and caliper to the new fork using the Honda CRF original wheel axis. All made by Naveh.<o:p></o:p>
    7- Naveh Lev-Ran, a true biker with hands and head of gold, and mostly, with a lot of soul. Above, the bike in its original condition. (sorry - it's a photo I took of a friend's bike, mine was black)
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  18. nave

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    some more pix from the article...
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    Oh holy sh*t, that is a sweet one! :bow Wan't to know more about it, what is the weight, engine modifications etc? And more (and bigger) pics please! =)
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  20. nave

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    self picw of me and the bike in the negev dessert...
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