Dragstrip times for scooters

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Yellow Jacket, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. Yellow Jacket

    Yellow Jacket Been here awhile

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    I'm searching for real dragstrip numbers for any scooter, 150 or larger. Surely someone, besides me, has done this. What I really want is the 1/8 and 1/4 mile ET's. All my times are for 1/8 mile only. I'm trying to come up with an approximent formula that will give me 1/4 mile et's if only 1/8 times are available. Adding 60% to 1/8 times will get close for 1/4 times. This works for cars and some motorcycles. But since scooters are so slow off the line the 60% are a little off. Probably needs to be more like 57-58%. If someone happens to post #'s for a B650 please indicate what mode you did it in. Thanks in advance for any info that showes up here.
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  2. btcn

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    I'd too like to know the 1/4 mile for a typical 150 cc Scooter and at what speed. Also would like to know 0-60 times for 150 Scooters and such.
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    TrashCan Scary Jerry

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    June 21st would be the best time to test quarter mile times.


















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  4. bobobob

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    _____________ 0-60 1/4mi.ET 1/4mi. speed

    Aprilia Mana 850 5.3 13.5 98

    Honda DN-01 7.4 15.4 87

    Kymco Venox 250 11.8 18 74

    Piaggio MP3 500 9.2 16.7 79

    Burgman 650 7 15.2 84

    Yamaha Tmax 9.2 16.7 83

    Source : MCN
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  5. MODNROD

    MODNROD Decisions, decisions

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    I've often asked what they get too, but have always been met with a blank look. Some people don't see the need for accel figures for scoots, and that's fine, but I use the specs to give me some idea of real-world performance, so I know where you're coming from.

    Here's some times I've seen at our track (after all us bike guys talked the "powers-that-be" into letting them run)........
    Std Beo500 ..... Mid-15s
    Mod Be0500 (pipe, pod filter, J.Costa) ..... mid-14s
    Burg650 ..... mid-hi 14s
    Std Tmax ..... lo-16s
    Mod Tmax (J.Costa, pipe) ..... lo-15s
    Vespa GTS250 ..... lo-17s

    .....and just for stamps, tuned-up Lambretta 220cc ..... flat 14s! :clap

    I think the 60% rule would be close for a scoot, but for the smaller engined ones, I think higher not lower, maybe 65%? Reason being a scoot has no top-end, and adds little speed over the last 200m, unlike a car or bike.

    Scoots are different to bikes too, in that rider ability on the 1/4 makes a huge difference with bikes, but probably very little on a scoot. There isn't the balancing act on a scoot between clutch-slipping/wheelie/tyre spin. An experienced dragracer can get 60ft times in the mid1.6s-mid1.7s (I mean REALLY standard, none of this lowered/strapped stuff!) on a sportsbike, whereas even experienced riders but no drag skills will be battling generally to get the 60ft times netter than mid-1.9s. 3/10 on the line is worth 5/10 at the end of the 1/4, but with scoots, generally what you see done anyone can repeat themselves.
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  6. Yellow Jacket

    Yellow Jacket Been here awhile

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    Ok, help me out here, what's going on here?
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  7. Yellow Jacket

    Yellow Jacket Been here awhile

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  9. MODNROD

    MODNROD Decisions, decisions

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    Actually, in High School I was a bit of an athlete too, did the 100m sprint in 11.8secs.
    Then I turned 18, got my license, and my 307 Monaro did it in about 1/2 that. That may explain the fitness loss I spose....
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    Longest day of the year, this way you make the run in daylight.



    I have had 2 scoots, so I am JK.

    250 Elite and Silverwing.

    Wish I still had the Elite.

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  11. Yellow Jacket

    Yellow Jacket Been here awhile

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    Bump, still looking for numbers on this.
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  12. ohiotj

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    Resurrecting this one, because I'd like to know what a Silverwing does in the 1/8 mile.

    Here are my contribuitions, from hitting the scooter drags at Brown County Dragway, an 1/8 mile track.

    Honda PCX 150 - 13.4 to 13.6 seconds

    Kymco Yager - low 13s (can't remember exactly what it ran)

    Genuine Buddy 125 - in the 14.3 to 14.4 range. This is my bike, and not completely stock. Its got an NCY transmission kit, 11g (I think) Dr Pulley sliders, and a Prima pipe. I weigh in around 175. I suspect the bike would be a tiny bit faster on the street, since there is about 330' of VHT on the track upping the friction.
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  13. Yellow Jacket

    Yellow Jacket Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the post ohiotj. I've been looking at the Brown Co scooter drags on line. Wish I was a little closer, I'd like to check it out in person. Was the PCX stock? Can you give me the 60' times on the PCX? A few years ago a friend's son ran a '87 Elite 150, got 13.408 @ 47.884. Rider was a lightweight, maybe 145#. Never did run my own Elite 150. Ran my Kymco GTi 300 a couple weeks ago. 11.358 @ 60.008. Just got done lightening the rollers in it, will take it up to my top secret test sight tomorrow.
    Getting back to Brown Co., do they have any Maxi scoots show up? I would like to see #'s on anything.
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  14. Forde

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    Why do you need this info?

    Check out nasra might have some info
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  15. driller

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    YJ has been drag racing MC's for 45years. Has to be in his DNA.:D
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  16. MODNROD

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    Coz otherwise you can't get any sleep wondering about it.

    2006 Piaggio X8 250ie (like a fat-bummed Vespa GTS that weighs 175kg+). :lol3
    Only got 0-60 times though:-
    stock ...... 14secs.
    stock with 145/70R12 rear tyre (raises gearing 7%).........14.6secs.
    The add:-
    Dr Pulley race variator and 15g sliders, Malossi spring seat, Polini yellow clutch springs, 1 x 1/2" extra hole in airbox........9.8secs.
    WOO!HOO! Under 10! :clap
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  17. ohiotj

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    As far as I know, the PCX was stock outside of a custom paint job. Just pulled my time slips, and it looks like the one time I was paired against a PCX in practice, it had a 2.849 60', a 13.447 1/8 mile, and the trap speed was just a smidge under 47 MPH. Not surprising to me. More powerful than an Elite 150, but they also weigh more AFAIK.

    Haven't seen any maxi scoots yet, but if my towing rig is finished in time, I may be hauling my Elite 250 there for Twist and Gone in October. It's got a bit of bearing noise (I think in the final drive), and I don't want to risk the 150 mile ride. Next year, I may build a dedicated drag scoot in addition to the Ruckus that is in late planning stages right now.

    The fastest bike out there is nominally an old Elite 50, but mostly its a tube frame setup, with a stock front panel, and an engine that's been punched out to 130cc. He ran an 8.908 in the final round last weekend.
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  18. driller

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    A fellow out at our local strip was telling us about a built up 150 that shows up and was turning low 9's. That is something we both would like to see. It even started a discussion of reviving an Elite 150 to do a "skelly" job and go crazy tuning it just for grins.:deal

    Nice to know the times for the PCX 150. I have a 125 model and was wondering the times it might yield, especially to see what the difference might actually be compared to the 150.
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  19. Yellow Jacket

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    Glad to see some life in this old thread. Ohio, thanks for the post. What year is your Elite and does it have any work done to it? I've had two Elite 250's, '87 and '89. For some unknown reason the '87 was MUCH faster off the line, 2.585 in 60' and the '90 could only muster 2.945 even after I drilled out the rollers. Both had the same top speed. Never did figure out why the big difference. Both bike are now sold.
    Had my Kymco out today for a test ride after drilling the rollers, MUCH faster off the line, About 4/10th sec. in a uphill 100 yards. Right now I don't think there is a showroom stock single cylinder scooter that will keep up with it.
    As for that supposed GY6 in the low nines, well, after almost 50 years of 2 wheeled drag racing I've learned not to believe every story you hear. A two stroke, yes, 4 stroke, well ??? as they say, show me.
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  20. Yellow Jacket

    Yellow Jacket Been here awhile

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    Modnrod, We don't have the X8 here, is that the same as the BV250 which we do have? My '06 ran 12.344 @ 54.232 bone stock, 11.808 @ 56.538 with light rollers and heavier clutch spring. Loved the bike but love my Kymco even more.
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