Drainplug Pics

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by patrkbukly, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. patrkbukly

    patrkbukly 52 Weeks of warm

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    Hi,
    does anyone have a picture of their transmission magnetic drainplug that I can see to compare what I have on mine by chance???

    Here is mine.

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  2. 100RT

    100RT Long timer

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    The tranny drain plug should have black or gray muck that you can rub between your fingers and not feel anything gritty or sharp. Gently shake that plug in a jar of gasoline or solvent to see what is really stuck on it.

    Whats the bike,year, mileage etc.
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  3. regomodo

    regomodo Been here awhile

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    Mine usually looks like black grease but its a suspension of filings in oil. Yours has chips in it, not normal.
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  4. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    No, because I can't photograph through my scopes. I usually waft a little brake cleaner across it to get the oil off then put the whole plug under a scope at 70X.

    Many very inexpensive (>$10) scopes will do fine but you do want over 50X and 70X is quite good. You can see stuff like chromed flakes, bearing bits, metal that is rolled or crushed vs. sheared or fractured, etc.

    At 1X someone elses drain plug can look just like yours (fuzz is normal at some mileage) yet tell a very different story under magnification.
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  5. ozmoses

    ozmoses Ride On

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    Patrick-

    pics, yes. online photo account,no.

    is that a paste or is that shards?

    Paste-OK.

    Shards- not so much...not the end of the world, just another adventure!
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  6. disston

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    That does look like slivers of metal. It usually does look like that. But the substance is soft and when squished between the fingers turns to powder. If the stuff on the drain plug is gritty and/or feels like bits of sand then you have much more serious problems.
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  7. Kai Ju

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    The debris looks like it came out of a kick start transmission. Is it ? At least that's what the stuff looks like coming off the kick starter gear and quadrant.. If so, stop using the kick starter.
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  8. disston

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    Bike is a 1993 R100 GSPD. See the thread about "nipples" else where on this page.
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  9. Mista Vern

    Mista Vern Knows all - tells some.

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    If the metal has never ever been cleaned off the magnet seeing bits of metal would not surprise me. I'd clean it off and check it again after a bit of hard running.
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  10. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    mmm...agree on the mention, but if you restrict your comments to nfo that is model independent...

    I'm trying to buy spark plugs. The brainless wonder behind the counter starts, without exception, by asking what model it is for. it Takes a loooong time before I can get him to just look up the spark plug number I have so he can get the store stock number and find it on their shelves. Twice the BW had to get a manager to show him how to do it.

    OP asked a silly question, and that poorly. if I show him my drain plug and it either looks a lot like his or a lot unlike it, what will he know? Nothing. So I addressed a better question he didn't ask, "What's this stuff on my drainplug". Left out all the details.
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  11. brittrunyon

    brittrunyon R 100 GS F 650 GS

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    You ask for photos.................You got it!

    1992 GS
    50k miles
    Images were taken before a trani rebuild, circlip install & higher 5th gear.
    There was one bad bearing.
    It probably would have done a few more miles.............but why?
    Good Luck...........................................

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  12. ME 109

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    Tranny out, open it up.
    It can't get better, only worse,
    Fix it before other damage occurs.
    Imo
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  13. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    Finally! The obvious emerges: entropy exists.

    But how fast it wears is something else. Opening it up when you can't read a drain plug...I'd say that could accelerate the wear quite a bit.

    Just my .02 mind you.
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  14. ME 109

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    What can't be read about that plug?
    Bad shit is happening in there.
    However, if he doesn't ride the bike it won't wear any further.
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  15. patrkbukly

    patrkbukly 52 Weeks of warm

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    That is exactly what I needed to see, that looks about same as mine so I need to get shopping or rebuilding.

    Thank you.
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  16. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    My point was, bad shit is happening starting day one. The thing is wearing out. What matters is how fast and how much you got left.

    If you clean that plug every 500mi. you will never see much on it and can live in the fools paradise of thinking the thing is not wearing. Or you can not clean it for 50,000mi and it'll look like that but it isn't any more, or less worn, than any other box at 50,000 which is to say you got another 50,000 left.


    If you don't change the oil, (and fill with the right stuff) clean the plug, keep water out, shift with some competence and get a bit lucky, then the box will wear out much quicker. So if our OP is Sam the Stomper when it comes to shifting, figures clutches are optional (and it's dragging anyway), just got to checking that tranny at 60k....

    But he didn't provide enough info, as Bill mentioned, to really say much.



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    I agree, the RSs here are slow compared to the sport bikes. But look at 1983. Hans Muth did a styling job for Suzuki of Germany. But he's still our boy. The early Katana line..and you can see some R65LS in them. The Suz. GS1000 made 108 HP. out of the same 998cc you got. The GSX750S made 79 HP.---compared to your 69.5, and it didn't give up a lot to the inefficiencies in the shaft like you have to. 511lbs dry. You have 507Lbs wet. So the 750 matches your weight and has 10 more HP, the 1000 38 more HP. And I'd add a 5HP advantage for both for the chain (at least).

    A more modern small sportbike, like the Kawasaki ninja (ZX6R) was putting out 110HP by 2000. Also with a chain. 40-45 HP more than you got.

    You ever ride one of those suckers?
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  17. brittrunyon

    brittrunyon R 100 GS F 650 GS

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    Your welcome..............................
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  18. ME 109

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    Not a 600. Most powerful bike for me was a kwaka zzr1100 pretty sure that's what it was called.
    Man did that motor. Only rode it once for about 60 miles when I swapped bikes on a run.
    I could feel every stone on the road through the front brake lever.
    There were two ducs on the run, a 906 and a 907. They did not have a hope in hell of catching me.

    But that was more open country than where I choose to hunt sports bikes :-)
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  19. darklight79

    darklight79 drink it , ride it , nail it

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    my drain plug. ? Really thats kind of personal ..my dimples attract all kinds of particles . Sometimes this scares me
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  20. Pokie

    Pokie Just plain Pokie.

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    Clean the plug, put it back with a new crush ring and fill the tranny with oil. get back on the bike and ride it, stop worrying. The transmission will let you know when something is going bad,.... it will tell you.
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