Drone's BMW G650 XCountry Mods

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by DRONE, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. fazer6

    fazer6 Been here awhile

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    Hmm...Off the top of my head, not without sewing. I've used the awl too, or just a big upholstery needle and thread. Simplest seems to be to just attach some double-D rings to the 'loop' side, near the bottom, thread the 'hook' straps through, cinch, and then use the velcro as an added measure.

    What about just putting some straps around the whole load, cinching through the rack? Makes access more difficult, but should hold everything together.
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  2. Geoffster

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    Drone, I'm tellin' ya, get Kathy at RKA involved. If your bag is launching, she needs to know, 'cause other bags are launching, too.
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  3. DRONE

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    Kathy and Richard are not pleased with me because I'm attaching the bag directly to the plate. The bag is supposed to attach to a "Starr IV" base pad and then the base pad is supposed to attach to the plate. But the Starr pad has an extra 1/2" of flop built into it and I didn't want the bag moving around that much. Not to mention that the Starr pad is completely incompatible with the TT plate. They offered to swap out the bottom of the bag for a non-Starr type, but I don't like the strap arrangement on that other bag either.

    I designed my new plate to be a perfect fit for this bag with slots in exactly the right place. The slots in the TT plate are a little wrong so maybe they put a strain on the velcro. Now that I got my new plate the next couple of rides should give me the answer. Nevertheless, there are various kinds of velcro-some more aggressive than others-and I think this bag needs something more aggressive.
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  4. Geoffster

    Geoffster Fool - Born This Way

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    I'm sorry to hear that Kathy and Richard don't want to help you with your solution, but want you to accept their solution. Not exactly the way it's supposed to work ...

    There are beefier kinds of Velcro which might work. There's also Fastex buckles. I used to worry about my BMW sportbag launching, but have learned to trust the buckles.

    Keep us informed! Thanks!
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  5. GB

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    Beautiful work! :clap

    I'm going to have to add this thread to the G650X index thread. :thumb
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  6. DRONE

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    Cool!
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  7. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    With my size 48 boots, and flat feet too, the OEM pegs work OK but sometimes they feel too small, like especially when going uphill on a gnarly road. You guys with little feet are lucky!

    So I got me some RocStompa pegs! These pegs are what RocStompa calls the "LongStomp".

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    Here you can see how they match up with my 48's--

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    Installation took 10 minutes. The kit does not include new cotter pins so you'll need some if the old ones get broken when removing the OEM pegs. Here are some close-ups--

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    I got my set from ETMOTO -- he's an inmate from Singapore with some kinda pipeline to RocStompa HQ in Australia. Here's a link to his thread in the Vendors section.

    EDIT - two years later - I love these footpegs! They ROC!
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  8. paul_g

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    Truly inspiring work. Those hand guards and the red color really give the bike a whole new character.
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  9. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    Thanks! The HDB handguards come with two sets of shields - black and white. I could paint the white ones red and put them on there but I keep thinking that red handguards will be too flashy for a bike that actually DOES go off pavement. What do you think?

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    The bike sure looks bigger when I'm not on it!
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  10. paul_g

    paul_g Been here awhile

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    I think the black hand guards are perfect. There is plenty of red as is and in all the right places.

    How big are you?

    I'm 5'11 and 190ish

    Of course, getting all suited up makes a difference too.

    BTW... what is the exact model of hand guard? I went to the site but they had a few quirky variations that I did not understand.

    Thanks
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  11. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    Well I'm a pretty big fella. In fact, ALL motorcycles look small when I'm onboard!

    On the BMW page of the HDB website, click on 30x98 bolt pattern, then click on XCountry under Handlebar width, then choose no anodizing and no flip-out mirrors and no Billet Protector. This gives you the $145 base model which is what I have. I also ordered the mirrors but have not mounted them yet.
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  12. paul_g

    paul_g Been here awhile

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    cool. thanks! Those have already made my mod wish list.

    I have sooooo much learning to do. Maybe if i'd discovered riding 10 years ago i'd have a chance to get somewhere!

    Here's a question that begs to be deflected to another thread...

    I need to learn some real basics here in terms of the early critical stuff that's needed, like the right initial set of tools and emergency tire care items, and the best way to carry this stuff on the X-Country, etc.

    Any pointers? Anyone?

    Found this thread that focusses on motion pro tools.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=479725&highlight=essential+tools

    I want to assume these things are universal, but not _knowing_ the Beemer intimately... I must leave room for doubt.

    Thanks

    Paul G

    ::: d'oh! ... found this just now! http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262998&highlight=essential+tools :::
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  13. paul_g

    paul_g Been here awhile

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    Still marvelling at your mods.

    Did you need to get a custom fuse box as a necessity to deal with all the gadgets you were adding to the system?

    I am interested in a brighter light and heated grips for the X-Co but doubt I have the acumen to deal with electrical work without voiding my warranty.

    What would be the easiest route to a brighter light and heated grips for someone with little to no experience working with electric systems ?

    Paul G
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  14. DRONE

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    Paul--here is the main toolkit thread. You don't have to read the whole thing. The first few pages covers most of it and will get you to thinking. No reason to carry tools you don't know how to use so keep your toolkit only to what you need. PM me your e-mail address and I'll send you a list of what I carry.

    The first question you need to answer is "Switched or Unswitched?" This means, do you want the accessories to function ONLY when the ignition is turned on?

    The danger of going Unswitched is leaving the accessory turned on when the bike is turned off will drain your battery quickly and could leave you stranded somewhere. But hooking up accessories directly to the battery is very easy and won't affect your warranty.

    I prefer Switched because I'm an idiot. There are several different ways to add Switched accessories. One way is to wire all your accessories into a heavy duty relay, power the relay with wires directly from the battery, then just have one low amperage wire go from the relay to a "switched" power line on the bike somewhere. This line will switch the relay on and off when the bike is turned on and off. A common place to splice into a "switched" power source is the tail light wire. On my bike, I used the wire that goes to the charcoal canister. This method should not affect your warranty because you are not using the bike's main wiring harness, fuse box, or ECU for your stuff. In essence, you are creating a separate electrical system as the bike's electrical system which just happens to share a common battery as the bike's main system.

    BTW, if you get the Oxford heated grips like mine, you don't need anything else. They connect directly to the battery and have a built-in relay that turns off the grips when the bike's electrical system drops below 11.5 volts. In other words, they turn themselves off when the motor stops running. So any noob can wire them up easy.

    On aux lights, some lighting kits are similarly easy to wire up. Some of them are designed to use the wire from the back of the H4 headlight to power both the aux lights and the OEM headlight. Very easy to do. PM me if you want more info -- we can discuss this offline.
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  15. plumber mike

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    Paul- My first cheap mod was a PIAA replacement H4 bulb. It's not the end all be all, but it has made a definate improvement. The PIAA website was the cheapest, so I called Summit and they beat them by a dollar. Summit always treats me well and ships Fast. Drone's bike is an inspiration to me as well.
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  16. paul_g

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    Great info DRONE. Nice to know about the grips. Those do look like the ones I want.

    So... you are saying that hooking accessories direct to the batter = unswitched. Does that mean that turning these items on and off may mean disconnecting them from the battery? assuming they don't have their own onboard switch that is... but then there are phantom loads which could draw on the battery even when a device is off.

    I'll take you up on your offer and ping you off line about the lights at some point. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself here! (don't even have the bike home with me yet. Just put a down payment!)

    Thanks

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  17. paul_g

    paul_g Been here awhile

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    Hi Plumber,

    Would you say that the brightness improvement from the H4 was enough to make a difference in terms of your conspicuity ? That is, was it pretty obvious people noticed you more?

    Hard to be scientific about that I know.

    Thanks for the info.

    Paul G
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  18. plumber mike

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    I can't say if others notice me or not. I purchased it so I could better see animals in the night. The low beam has a purple tint that might look a little different than the others. I'm sorry I couldn't be more help.
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  19. tbarstow

    tbarstow Two-wheelin' Fool

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    I did this on my XChallenge. Its a big improvement in making the headlight functional after dark, but I am still planning on putting a HID in it. Figure the HID is about the cost of 4 light bulbs.
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  20. DRONE

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    Not to put down PIAA--they make great products for motorcycles and their heavy duty bulbs are very tough. My HID light kit from Martin Fabrication uses PIAA bulbs. But . . . their H4 bulb has the same yellow color as the BMW bulb--about 4000k. I tried one and didn't like it. It does not improve conspicuity. It's just a tougher bulb with "perhaps" a slight bit more light output than stock (not noticeable to me). But I had a chance to swap bikes with a buddy last month and see my 6000k H4 Halogen Bulb from Luminics USA in the rear view mirror and it's really brilliant silver white--very conspicuous in daylight. Like a shiny diamond. The one I got they call the "Pure Blue" bulb, not the "Krypton Blue". They only cost $35 for two bulbs.
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