Drowsiness more common when piloting a hack?

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  1. Ockrocket

    Ockrocket Long timer

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    Uninjured, but now my licence has been suspended until it expires late next year.

    I've just added an outfit to the "fleet" of bikes in the shed, and now I can't ride it.

    I'm undergoing a whole raft of scans and tests, so far all is coming back "normal", and unless they can find something medically wrong with me they won't reinstate my licence.

    Sort of sucks that I test 100% ok and can't drive, but people who have issues, or have never been medically tested, are allowed to drive.

    At least I didn't injure or kill anyone else in the accident, and also a good thing I wasn't on a bike or the sidecar (though I wouldn't have fallen asleep if riding :D )
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  2. angtlalaska

    angtlalaska Been here awhile

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    My own personal experience is that prior to adding the sidecar I struggled to ride my R1200GS more than 5 hours before I just had to get off. My extra low seat was killing my butt.. I did ride my F650GS Twin with an after market seat back from the D2D (Dawson City) to Anchorage in the rain. 520 miles. It was June but cool in the low 50's so I was using my heated grips and heated Gerbing jacket. About 75 miles from Anchorage on a particularly boring section of the Glenn Highway I realized I was nodding off. I immediately stood on the pegs, turned off the heat, opened my jacket and face mask (Nolan 103) . It got my attention and I rode another 5 + miles to a gas station/café. Coffee and two bowls of chili plus 1 hour of rest and I was good to go the last miles. Since then I NEVER ride with too much heat.
    Since I added the sidecar to my R1200GS which allowed me to get a Russell Day Long seat, I can do 10 to 14 hour days on the rig but I still never allow myself to get too warm as it seems to fatigue me faster.
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  3. Dan Alexander

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    Called Aural Fatigue

    "Differences in individual susceptibility to auditory fatigue have been ascribed to factors relating to cochlear bio‐chemistry, changes in neural excitability, hair cell damage and overdriving of the transducerorgan as evidenced by nonlinear distortion."

    Done quite a few 1000 mile days and one of almost 1200. Trick I learned years ago from the IBA was to suck on tart lemon drops. Looks like aspirin may help as well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_fatigue
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  4. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Well that explains allot ! Just when I think your hopeless Dan you surprise me !
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  5. Dan Alexander

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    got to keep you on your toes :D
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  6. Bobmws

    Bobmws Curmudgeon At Large

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    Thanks a lot Dan............
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  7. Dan Alexander

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  8. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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    Back from Spring Break - sunny, warm days and still periodic drowsiness...

    Different playlists - helps
    Ear plugs - helps
    Iron - woman's multivitamins, not sure yet
    Visor color - check, not sure
    Entertaining monkey - definitely helps, particularly a chatty little girl on intercom

    Our encounter with a black sheep (rejected by mom) on our trip to Port Townsend:

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    She also loved the tulips in Skagit:

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  9. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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    I am trying something new this year to combat drowsiness - ride more at night! Seems to be working... so far.
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  10. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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  11. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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  12. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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  13. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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  14. rg sw wa.

    rg sw wa. Long timer

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    For me, I try and drink more to stay hydrated. If I get thirsty I am already dehydrated. When I stop for a drink I move around a lot. And when riding in high temps I use a cooling vest and soak it regularly. Eat a little something at each stop. Drink something like Ensure or Gatorade. My 2cents.
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  15. MGV8

    MGV8 Been here awhile

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    Fear of right hand corners seems to work pretty well for me. :doh
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  16. Bedouin

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    Most times I am a bit drowsy after eating. It supposedly raises your blood sugar levels between half an hour and 2 hours after eating.
    That, combined with sun puts me almost in dreamland.
    Drinking lots of water helps (NOT soft drinks containing sugar - they just make you thirsty again).
    So, check if your drowsiness is relatively shortly after a meal, it may be related.
    Just my 2 drachmae.
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  17. URAL CT

    URAL CT Been here awhile

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    I have had similar similar experiences in the past. I was fortunate that I didn't get into a real bad accident...yes...I've fallen asleep while riding but a guardian angle must have been watching out for me. Once I drifted towards the side of a bridge & when the bike dropped onto the shoulder of the road it jarred me awake & was able to grab the binders in time. Only casualty was my shorts. Another was when I crashed my brand new R80 RT in 1986, totaled the BMW but fortunately just one minor bruise for me. Later I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea & was not getting enough sleep. After the sleep study, doc told me that I quit breathing 96 times in a 4 hour sleep session. Told the doc I was practicing for deep sea diving & I got the lecture of my life. I was not getting any rest, so were the folks around me cuz I snored unbelievably loud. I've been using a C-PAP now for the last 20 yrs & have very restful sleep every night.
    Take heed...your problem may be medical, have it checked. You can die in your sleep or while riding your motorcycle.
    SLEEP GOOD...SLEEP APNEA BAD!
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  18. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    I often go with the afternoon nap but I'm retired and get in the habit in during winter !

    Todays was a good one on a rest area on the Mississippi River
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    Concrete picnic table in the shade (cool) BFF Just-N-Time , Aerosnitch Darien pillow, must have slept close to an hr.
    Living in SE MN we have White Tail Deer everywhere night riding requires hyper vigilance !
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  19. FR700

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    Covered picnic tables are great. Too high for the ants or snakes to really bother you, plus it'll keep the frost off on those cold nights.




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  20. squizzy

    squizzy Been here awhile

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    I have found when getting a bit drowsy to sometimes get a mouthful of water from the camelback, shut the visor, and squirt the mouthful out. Wakes you up, bit hard to do the first time, but breaks up a boring ride. I do give my helmet liner a clean when I get home. I suppose now I have ruined any chances of selling any of my old helmets!
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