Dual Sport went off hitch carrier @60 mph

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by 177in70s, Aug 11, 2012.

  1. 177in70s

    177in70s Adventurer

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    300 pound Dual Sport went off hitch carrier on Chevy @ 60 mph:

    4 Ancra Tie downs were on snug and stayed hooked to bike, front tire dragged on highway making a long skid mark after a loud low boom. Bike OK, front tire had extra wear on one edge. It spun while dragging. Bike scratched rear door of Suburban.

    Why? Fast right hand sweeper wanted bike to go forward as did the main ratchet clamps from 2” receiver up to frame just above and to the rear. The front pair of cam lock clamps don’t do much but tend to twist the channel as bike rocks, it was raining, forgot to put bike in gear, didn’t wrap either tire down to channel, main channel twisted, metal ramp against front tire cocked and front tire suddenly rolled forward by “ramp,” and shot out and down to road. "Cycle Country" brand carrier has a short ramp without sides.

    Now: Cam lock front to whimpy cross bar first as before to make bike hands free, ratchets on each side to receiver from frame as before. Add simple straps holding front tire (inboard of cross bar) and rear tire down to channel.

    A year ago, had a different "close call." Used a single center ratchet strap, up one side, across and down the other with an extra wrap or two before crossing. Well that wrap slipped and bike tipped about 30 degrees but was still "tight." Now I use a separate ratchet strap for each side.
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  2. 2handedSpey

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    Hmmm.... Sounds to me like you need to stop using hitch carriers:lol3
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  3. c5babe

    c5babe Been here awhile

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    Hmmm......seems to me you need to learn how to safely load and tie down your bike no matter what kind of carrier you use. :deal
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  4. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day.

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    +1 and "didn’t wrap either tire down to channel" WTF Why not?
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  5. 390beretta

    390beretta Long timer

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    I towed two dual sports all over the country. Had one fall over due to the S loops on tie downs. Then switched everything to the caribiner type that you have to screw closed...no more problems! The S type, supplied with all commercial tie downs suck. Hit a bump, they can let go at a whim!
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  6. Alleycatdad

    Alleycatdad Unbunch yer panties!

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    A bungee cord between the S hooks on each tie down will solve that issue just fine.

    S
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  7. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    Sounds more loike a rigging problem than a hitch carrier problem

    Though my hitch carriern lifts the bike under the skid plate and BOLTS to the footpegs so doesn't rely on straps nor the wheels not turning. U just gotta make sure not to crank too hard on the nuts or you'll bust off a footpeg or bracket.

    Come to think of it, as we don't use ours any more, I ought to sell it. It's the kind the incorporates a bottle jack to lift the bike off the ground. It's kinda rusty & beat looking and I'd take $50 for it, but it would be a bitch tio ship, needs to be someone local who can pick it up or the shipping would be more than the carrier.
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  8. andmoon

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    pictures i need pictures,
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  9. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    U gonna come up from Joisy for a $50 hitch carrier, or do you want pics of the OP's dragged tire?!?

    Today at our club's Enduro, there were a couple of people with 2-bike hitch carriers. One (attached to a Honda SUV) sagged so much that we could hear the end of the carrier scraping on the gravel driveway as he left the parking field.
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  10. high dangler

    high dangler Been here awhile

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    doesnt suprise me that someone that uses a hitch carrier loses a bike . They are pure rinky dink .
    A hazard to others when they spill their load on the highway and a hazzard because they make vehical handles like shit even if the bike does not fall off.
    Buy a P/U if you want to haul. The bike goes inside the bed of truck.
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    Mike_drz Banned

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    I use Ultimate MX Hauler since 2005, 300lbs bike. I had it rewelded in some weak parts of it a couple years ago when they become loose. it rocks soild ever since
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    Old_Crow Been here awhile

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    This thread is (almost) worthless without pics.

    I come to this section for a little wisdom and never leave disappointed :rofl
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  13. James Adams

    James Adams ɹǝsn uʍop ǝpᴉsdn Administrator

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    This is the type of carrier that viverrid was referring to. I really like mine.

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  14. FISHCAT

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    Hitch carriers are fine as long as you drill a hole in each end and run a strap up to the roof rack and put slight tension on each side.
    This keeps it much more stable and takes some of the load off of the hitch.
    I also tie a loose strap from the handlebars to the vehicle....just in case!
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  15. DAKEZ

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    I thought you were supposed to ride them. I must have been doing it wrong all these years. :1drink
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    +1 on full closure ends on the tie downs. S hooks can and will come off!
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  17. ElkSlayer

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    So should one avoid hitch carriers? See them for about $120 at HF, but this thread has me worried...

    Jim
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    one very postive thing about this carrier is it doesn't have (that much) torsional leverage problem due to unbalanced weight distrbution while loading the bike.
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  19. viverrid

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    I am apalled at the two bike hitch carriers that I see. Apparently folks are thinking stuff like "my vehicle takes a 500 tongue weight and my two dirt bikes only weigh a little more than that.....

    But tongue weight is applied directly to the hitch ball. The LEVERAGE of even the first bike (with a roll-on carrier) is applied farther out than a hitch ball would be, magnifying the effect of the load. And a SECOND bike even further out? AWFUL leverage.

    I could feel the effect of the weight of a DRZ on our jack-up carrier (on an Xterra) but it wasn't bad. I think 2 bikes on a hitch carrier would be awful. Towing a large landscaper-type trailer (empty weight nearly 1,000 lbs) with the same bike on it, felt like it handled better. More total weight but differently distributed.
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  20. B.Curvin

    B.Curvin Feral Chia tamer

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    Yes. At all costs.

    Would you really trust the life of your pride and joy, hanging precariously over the pavement at 70mph, to a cut-rate outsourced overweight under-engineered cheapo hitch carrier?

    :deal
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