Dual Sport with Fuel Injection

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by rogerc, Aug 16, 2008.

  1. rogerc

    rogerc FJRider

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    Been researching on line and looking for info on what fuel injected dual sports are out there now or what is in store for 2009.
    Can't find much info......
    What is the rumors of what bikes that will have fuel injection?
    All info appreciated.
    RC
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  2. Hollow

    Hollow Banned Camp

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    I may be wrong but I THINK the vstroms have FI... ah damnit Im probably wrong. :freaky
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  3. truck6driver

    truck6driver The Fireman

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    I know some of the GAS GAS bikes had FI. Some of the larger Husky bikes have it. And I believe the new Yam WR250 has it.
    Not an expert so someone else should verify this.

    RH
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  4. BikeSDP

    BikeSDP On a last chance power drive

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    KTM 690 Enduro is FI now and for 2009. The Husky TE-610 I bought has it.
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  5. GB

    GB . Administrator

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    Since you're in Thumpers, I'm assuming you're asking about thumpers. The BMW G650X Challenge is fuel injected.The new Husky 610 is FI in addition to the above ones.
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  6. Twotrak

    Twotrak Been here awhile

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    I'm pretty sure that for 2010 almost everything will have fuel injection and a catalytic converter if it's street legal. Check out the EPA's webb site. By the way, I notice on the site that there is some type of a once in a lifetime custom bike exemption. I wonder if that is a loop-hole that would allow people in states that don't allow dual sporting a dirt bike to have a once in a lifetime chance to do so if they call it a custom.
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  7. holycaveman

    holycaveman Long timer

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    Boy I hope it doesn't all go to FI. Well regardless, my old carbed bike will have to stay. Don't want FI on a street bike, let alone a dirt bike.
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  8. error cooled

    error cooled anything but asphalt

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    To clarify.. yes in 2010 emissions standards will become more stringent federally. BUT.. the 2010 emissions are already in place in CA as of 2008 model year, so any bike that is being sold in CA right now can still be sold in 2010 and thereafter. There will still be carbed and air cooled bikes.

    On another note Honda has said that every bike they sell will have FI by 2010... from scooters to dual sports.
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  9. basketcase

    basketcase lifelong reject fixer

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    For a view from the far side, I've been holding off on buying while hoping the DR's will come out with FI. Does this mean I might get my wish in 2010? :huh

    FWIW, I had FI on BMW's for years and loved it. My K models all had an electronic adapter for high altitude. Just plug in a little thingy about the size of a cigarette butt to a cable tucked under the side panel and presto, the fuel mix tweaking took care of itself electronically via the computer.

    And if my recollection is right, on most of the new FI'ed bikes the rider simply turns on the switch and gives the oxygen sensor a moment to read the atmosphereic levels, and then starts the bike. Mixture is taken care of with no roadside guesswork.

    The downside of electronic FI is that if it tears up, you are really screwed, because the computerized nature of the beast means it has to be serviced at a qualified shop. I never had one go bad, but knew that if it did, I would be light in the wallet as a result.

    Oh yeah, and back to the origional question -- the BMW F series dual sports have been FI'ed since around 2000 or so. Decent power and great fuel mileage.
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  10. holycaveman

    holycaveman Long timer

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    Good post.

    From a different prespective than most. I ride and wrench on these FI bikes alot. And have been doing this for years. I just prefer the normally asparated bikes. Cars? I could care less about. I ride everyday, all year around. I have no carb issues period. My truck just sits, unless I have to pick up a bike.

    FI is not evil, I just don't need it.

    On the flip side my main job in the spring is cleaning out all these carbs from people storing them in the winter! One thing that is great about FI. If you ride everyday, carb is the way to go, if not, then honestly, FI might just be the ticket?
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  11. mcftw

    mcftw hxc n33b

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    Well it's not like your KLR won't last forever...
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  12. GSBS

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    Almost 45K miles and not a hiccup. I do ride almost every day and get between 55 mpg (shagging on the slab and 80 mph or more) and have gotten over 68 mpg when riding in the sub-65 mph range.

    I like it.
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  13. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    Why is everyone so scared of EFi? If you have an e-start on your bike then you already have a battery... and all bikes use a CDI ignition these days - if that goes wrong you're in the same position (ie. screwed).

    The 'only' potential downside with EFi is you need a fuel pump (another item to potentially fail) in the tank - but seriously, the benefits of EFi really outway the downsides, especially on a dual sport bike...

    As someone said above, in not too many years time, all bikes (that are road legal) will have to have EFi just to get through ever more stringent emissions testing...

    xxx
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    XRsteve Been here awhile

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    I would love to have fuel injected dualsport. I have fuel injection on my 919 and its great. No matter the temperature, all I have to do is push the button and it starts right up. I wish my dirt bikes were that easy. And think how easy it would be to start after laying the bike down.
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  16. Ruffus

    Ruffus Dirty Old Mudder

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    Husky TE 250\450\510\610 are all injected for 08 along with the SM line. Next year there will be a new 310 also.
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  17. error cooled

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    http://world.honda.com/news/2008/c080521Mid-Year-CEO-Speech/

    "[ Strengthening technological and product attributes ]
    <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="566"><tbody><tr align="left" valign="top"> <td width="12">·</td> <td width="552">In the area of environmental technology, installation of PGM-FI (Honda&#8217;s Programmed Fuel Injection) on all scooters sold in Japan is now virtually completed, and PGM-FI will be installed on to all Honda motorcycles sold in Thailand by the end of 2009. Honda plans to install PGM-FI on most of its motorcycles worldwide by the end of 2010.

    </td> </tr> <tr align="left" valign="top"> <td width="12">·</td> <td> In the area of safety technology, Honda will install a motorcycle airbag system and ABS (Antilock Brake System) on more products. Honda plans to install ABS in all 250cc or larger class models worldwide, except off-road models, by the end of 2010.

    </td> </tr> <tr align="left" valign="top"> <td>·</td> <td>In advancing nations, Honda will introduce a new model, in the most popular 100cc class, which achieves high fuel efficiency, high performance, and low cost. Sales of this new model will begin first in Thailand in summer 2008 and then in other Asian countries.

    </td> </tr> <tr align="left" valign="top"> <td>·</td> <td>In advanced nations, Honda will introduce its innovative environmental and safety technologies including a Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) system for motorcycles which significantly improves fuel efficiency as well as electronically-controlled combined ABS (C-ABS), an advanced brake system which further improves stability while braking. Moreover, Honda will improve the product attractiveness of medium-to-large size models and strengthen those aspects of a product which contribute to the joy of riding .

    </td> </tr> <tr align="left" valign="top"> <td>·</td> <td>Motorcycle R&D will also be strengthened with a determination and passion to create the Super Cub of the next generation."</td></tr></tbody></table><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="566"><tbody><tr align="left" valign="top"><td width="12">
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  18. rogerc

    rogerc FJRider

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    As the Orignial Poster I love Fuel Injection.
    I ride near sea level when I ride around Big Sur and the Bay Area and them when I go to Lake Tahoe ride at 6000 to 9000 feet.
    Having fuel injection makes the whole ride that much better at altitude without having to re-jet etc.
    Hoping the DR 650 and the KLR are fuel injected in the not too distant future.
    RC
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  19. DirtHopper

    DirtHopper Been here awhile

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    I used to think like you do. But now, I would much rather have an FI bike. It is so much smoother, more responsive, and has a potetial for better mpg. Sign me up for the next XR650 that is EFI:evil :norton :deal
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  20. montesa_vr

    montesa_vr Legend in his own mind

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    Yeah. My son's 700 Nighthawk has had more than 20 years of long winters. I can make it run with enough SeaFoam, but I know the right thing to do is a full carb cleaning. Yuk, what a job!
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