dualsportmaps.com - Android App

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by craftycoder, May 26, 2011.

  1. reddingnative

    reddingnative Adventurer

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    So, the remote control is available?
  2. craftycoder

    craftycoder Motobrain PDU

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    If you want to take my bike for a spin it is. I have not been able to get an affordable enclosure sourced for it and I don't really feel like offering it for more than $200 which will be required with the current cost structures I've got. I've found a new a interesting piece of tech that may get the costs way down but they, so far, don't want to talk to me because I am not Toyota or GM. It's really cool tech though. It's not as easy as you think it should be go from prototype to product. Especially when its such a niche thing. There are a few hundred app users. Even if all of you wanted a remote, that would not be enough units to make die casting make sense. The economies of scale are making this harder than I'd like.
  3. reddingnative

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    I've been looking at your progress. It's a great idea. Innovative, like the picture BMW with a joystick instead of a steering wheel.

    I have looked at a lot of overpriced GPS units and really like the screen size of my droid bionic. There are Otterbox Defender models out there for $22. delivered. With the mapping you have available, it should work fine.

    What do you think about the In-Reach paired with an android phone?

    On another note, two weeks ago, I had an opportunity to put DSM to the test. Another rider and I headed out to map a dirt route from Redding to Burney Falls State Park (East), then to McCloud, Ca (North), then to Hwy. 3 (West), then back to Redding via Trinity Lake, Lewiston and French Gulch. Ended up being 400 miles, 100 of it pavement, not by choice.

    Long story short, a new hard copy map of the Shasta Trinity National Forest, is a checker board of green (STNF) and white (Private Land). The other rider I was with had charted our route on his GPS prior to the trip. What we encountered were gated roads that are not on the map. So any route you choose, there is no guarantee you will get where you are going. Additionally, the closer you are to a highway, the better the Forest Road markers are. As you get deep into the forest, the signs are missing completely or some folks have changed just one number to make it very confusing.

    So, Day 2, going from Burney Falls to McCloud, Ca was very interesting. Hit the road at 9am and finally arrived in McCloud at 1130pm. It was a beautiful starry night. My buddies GPS did not have a good map that identified Forest Roads, but the DSM app. did and at 10pm we were at an intersection with (2) gates and no signs anywhere to be found. My buddy was very frustrated and said we were lost, but obviously all we had to do was backtrack for several hours to get back to the Hwy. 89.

    So with the DSM topo map, the Forest Roads were there and labeled, as well as our position. My buddy had done a great job of navigating through a maze of unmarked roads and roads that are not even on the map. We were able to navigate around the gate and get to our camping site in McCloud.

    The following day, we rode into Mt. Shasta City and went to the Forest Service office to complain about the map. They explained that the Shasta Trinity National Forest is unusual in that there is so much fragmented land. People have purchased lake front property and now the rest of the population can't get to it. So, their solution, is a map addendum for each area of the forest which detail public access.

    It was a great learning experience in good weather.

    So, when I opened the DSM app., I did have some fragmented sections. Is that because I didn't have all the data downloaded?
  4. craftycoder

    craftycoder Motobrain PDU

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    Sounds like an adventure. A screen shot of the "fragmented sections" would help me tell you what happened. If you were using the topo maps then yes you likely didn't have all the tiles you needed. That is rather difficult to do because the tile cacher only downloads tiles under your tracks. There is another way that grabs all the tiles but it is not recommended because it hammers the map servers and that is impolite.

  5. David_in_TX

    David_in_TX Been here awhile

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    Crafty, We've discussed the enclosure before and I am absolutely certain I could help you. If this is the one thing that's preventing you from marketing the remote I'm telling you it can be solved with off the shelf parts...


  6. BENRON

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    Crafty-

    These recon goggles apparently run on android... They've got a heads up display, with GPS, And a remote!

    But they're set up for skiing. A pair of these with a stripped down version of your app would be VERY droolworthy :tb
  7. Lonerrider

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    Now that is frickin sweet!! Wow!!
  8. tijuana

    tijuana Farkling Around

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    Oh think Santa is bringing me goggles! :norton

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FTde1t917NM&noredirect=1

    Heartrate
    Altitude
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    Jump Airtime, Distance, Height and Drop
    GPS Location
    Chrono/Tracker
    Temperature
    Run Counter
    Stats History with Maximums, Minimums, Averages
    Widescreen
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    Navigation
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    MP3 Song Playlists
    Wireless Compatibility with Select Wearable Sports Video Cameras
    Transforms your MOD Live into a Viewfinder
    User Configurable Dashboard
    Even more Android Apps available from Recon HQ Online...
  9. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    I was just turning some Jeepers onto your site and came to the conclusion that you have the wrong name. Its not just for dualsport bike or bikes at all. Its also a great site for jeepers. I think you should look at rebranding into a overlandermaps or something.
  10. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    It's for Dual Sport.

    They drive the jeeps on road and off don't they?
  11. matteo92065

    matteo92065 n00b

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    I just discovered this program a little bit ago, and I really like it so far. Everything that my garmin(s) has been missing for two decades. I've had time to pick up a used DEFY and all the mounts and cables. I'm still working on getting the Defy working as I need to get a sim card.
    I'm having some troubles with DSM overlays. I start with a JPG, then put it into google earth, then align, then "Save place as" to get a kmz file. I then go to DSM overlays, and upload it. It looks like it goes up completely, then gives me a message. The file is ~2Mb. I see that there was someone with the same issue several posts ago. The response was that there was something wrong with the KMZ file, and it was manually fixed?
    I want to say thanks again, and I will be purchasing as soon as I can get my new to me droid working.

    and... I would like to offer building some aluminum controller cases for you, if they are still needed.
    [​IMG]
  12. Lonerrider

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    Unfortunately a lot of jeep trails are not so much for dirt bike trails. I hope the guys that are using it explain in their maps that the trail was created in a jeep.

    Just my whining!! :rofl
  13. matteo92065

    matteo92065 n00b

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    I've been having problems with my overlays working on DSM.
    I tried it on another computer (Mac) and it worked fine. Same exact workflow. The computer it doesn't work on is a PC with windows 7, zone alarm, and maybe a firewall. I don't know why it doesn't work, and I'm out of things to change to get it to work. So, if anyone has the same problem, try a different machine.
  14. matteo92065

    matteo92065 n00b

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    I plan on using this software on my new KTM :D and my Jeep. It should look great with a 7" screen.
  15. craftycoder

    craftycoder Motobrain PDU

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    I've updated the app with a few repairs. I recent got a new phone without a hard menu button and learned that the soft menu button did not work on the Search screen. (Thanks for the heads up guys :p) This has been repaired. The Download My Maps feature on the Search menu is more interactive now.

    I also fixed the file associations with the app so that it will be a little more selective about what files it tells the OS it can open. You should still be able to open GPX files with the app, but you should no longer see the DSM app icon associated with file types other than GPX files.
  16. roundtripping

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    I managed to snag a Nexus 4 today, looking forward to trying out DSM on it :1drink
  17. craftycoder

    craftycoder Motobrain PDU

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    Cool. There is a Jelly Bean issue with the map select check boxes. Google has promised to fix it but as of 4.1 it was still broken. You check the box and nothing happens...it's sort of annoying

    Your phone should have 4.2 and I'm curious if they fixed it yet.
  18. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    I was looking into APRS and was thinking wouldn't it be cool to connect a radio and cell phone and have DSM's display received GPS positions sent over the radio.
  19. craftycoder

    craftycoder Motobrain PDU

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    The app does have a location reporting system so that friends can show up on your map while you are riding (assuming you have network). They have to turn it on, on their phone and go to the website and add your user to the approved list, but it does work well after that.

  20. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Yep i use that with the wife but during my last big ride we had several days without cell coverage.