Ducati 1199 Panigale

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  1. apessino

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  2. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    That's it, I'm flying over to Italy for the show...

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  3. apessino

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    So, while we wait, here's what we know so far (Italian mag Motociclismo has had a couple of "exclusive looks" already):

    Wet clutch (bye open clutch)
    No frame (bye trellis)
    Under engine exhaust
    Completely revised, over square, incredibly compact twin engine (not an L!)
    The short piston run should net scary HP
    All kinds of wind tunnel optimizations
    Tiny, tiny bike and very slim tail
    Mix of chain and gear drive (bye belts)
    LED all around
    All new electronics (mystery buttons spotted on handlebar)
    Developed by the Corse department with Bayliss as main tester
    New rearsets are still not adjustable
    All new triple, forks, etc. Damper now in front of clamp.
    Rear shock mounted horizontally, Diavel style.

    I think that's it for now... here's a scan of the Motociclismo article (in Italian, with pics): http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2011/07/2012-ducati-1199-superbike-photos/

    Here's a reasonable guess of what the bike will look like (color scheme aside :D):

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  4. apessino

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    One more thing: Lots of magnesium parts on the bike (cases, brackets, etc.)
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  5. JJGeo

    JJGeo Been here awhile

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    I can't wait to see it. :evil

    That'll suck if it doesn't have a dry clutch. I actually prefer wet clutches in street bikes, but this is a race bike...it should be dry. UNLESS it is a slipper from the factory, then all is good. :D

    The no frame thing worries me based on how the GP bike is doing. SBK and GP bikes are different animals though.

    It's still a 90* twin, just the horizontal cylinder isn't anymore...whole motor has been rotated backwards in the chassis.
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  6. Turder

    Turder Throttle engineer

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    Interesting to see how purists will or will not accept this bike. Ducati threw out almost all of their trademark technical and design bits with this bike. For me there is a lots of cons of the 1198 fixed (stuff that I didn't fancy on it) like the dry clutch or belts (more maintenance costs)... 1199 could be easy bike to live with compared to older Ducati superbikes.

    Ducati won't enter 1199 Panigale into WSBK next year. Instead, they'll compete in Superstock in 2012 and then Superbike in 2013.
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    SOLD!!!

    I bet it'll be lighter than any other RR currently in production.
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  8. DesmoDog

    DesmoDog Desmo's my dog

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    +1, however anyone who knows the history of the brand going back further than the 916 realizes that none of the "trademark" bits, save the desmo system, were around when they first started making their name with twins... and even then not all Ducatis were desmos until what, 1980?
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  9. JJGeo

    JJGeo Been here awhile

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    Yep...people seem to forget (or never knew) that.

    I'm a bit of a Ducati guy...even past preident of the local DOC. As long as it does the following things, in this order, I'll embrace it:

    1. Performs well
    2. Looks good
    3. Sounds good

    I may not buy it though, because all indications are it is going to be $$$$.
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  10. OldPete

    OldPete Be aware

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    'member, design changes can be made to meet noise regs.
    HD went to belt drive for that reason... iirc.
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  11. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    By the looks of it, real men (anybody bigger than 5'7 and 140lbs)need not apply. The Big 4 can get away with it, but Ducati better watch out as their bikes are priced beyond the reach of adolescents males. The are alienating a big portion of their demographic, no pun intended. I wonder how many riders were put off by the diminutive size of the Aprilia RSV4 and bought a BMW S1000RR instead. How long will it take moto manufacturers to figure out that most men are not built like Pedrosa-bots? I have lost interest in sport bikes because they have gotten so damn small.
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  12. wpbarlow

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    Good point- and probably a reason Ducati came out with the Streetfighter and MS1200, and Aprilia the original and V4 Tuonos. Racing realities do much to dictate the size/dimensions of pure sportbikes; so the more standard/friendly offerings let the big (normal? :lol3) folks still get the cachet and performance of the racebikes. So there isn't really much alienating of the demographic. Nothing wrong with that strategy.
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  13. JamesG

    JamesG Rabid Poster

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    WTF is a "Panigale"?
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  14. apessino

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    JamesG Rabid Poster

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    They named it after their own factory?

    Seems a bit... presumptuous. :huh
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  16. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Likely Lost.

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    Its more like the county. Panigale is known as the motor valley in many circles.


    Not to mention, the factory is only like 35-40 miles from Mugello if I remember right.
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  17. madDUC_dj

    madDUC_dj Just wanna ride, A LOT

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    I don't WANT one............I NEED one!!!:wings
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  18. OConnor

    OConnor Bad juju

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    They learned their lesson on the swing-arm debacle at least.
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  19. olie

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    it beats Baloney from Bologna... BTW, nice looking bike with a tail end like a RSV4...
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  20. rhythmofbeing

    rhythmofbeing Been here awhile

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    Yeah, the press release framed it more as a nod to their community. At least that was my understanding.
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