Ducati MultiStrada 1200

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by Paulvt1, Sep 10, 2008.

  1. ten.98

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    So I did probably close to 75 miles in the dirt today with the TKC's and another 120 miles on pavement. They actually did really well in the dirt and sand and I was surprised at how streetable they were on the pavement. The 17" front wheel is still a huge limitation in the soft stuff, but hard pack and gravel it eats up like nothing else.

    The group of guys I was riding with today are a little unbalanced and have somewhat of a death wish so I can tell you that these tire get squirrelly on the pavement above 120mph. Below that they were great, even leaning into corners around 90mph. You definitely can't lean them over near as far as PR3's or whatever other street only tires you might use, but they do a good job of telling you where the edge is before you reach it.

    Most of the back roads we were on today were orange grove trails with pockets of deep sugar sand, and when you come up on those you're still gonna get some pretty good pucker factor if you enter in too fast, but on the D616's I used for the TLH I pretty much had to almost come to a complete stop before making any hard turns in the sand, where these allow you to carry a little speed.

    The long sweeping dirt turns is where these really shine on the MTS, I used to always have to slow down a bit for fear of the front end stepping out, but you really feel planted with these, much easier to steer with the throttle on these than with other tires I've used before.

    I've got about 6 hours worth of video I need to edit down, but once I'm done I'll post a short clip up so you can see what I was seeing. Between the TLH and today that's about all the dirt riding experience I have, so I'm sure a more seasoned rider could really tear it up with these.
  2. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Been here awhile

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    I'd like to try these sometime - any trouble fitting the front tire with respect to the fender and brake lines?
  3. fixinbones

    fixinbones Tarmac Adventurer

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    MS with TKCs, now that's cool!
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    jerdog53 Crop Dusting Everywhere

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    Thats a good look!
  5. ten.98

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    None at all. I'm pretty sure these were made specifically for the MTS (in this size).
  6. Paulvt1

    Paulvt1 Long timer

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    It does look beastly. I have gone off in the other direction and fitted Pilot road 3's. Impressive tyre so far.
  7. Doug Pirahna

    Doug Pirahna Adventurer

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    I did recently too, love them.
  8. cptapholmes

    cptapholmes brake! No, TURN! No,

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    Wow! Perfect timing! :freaky I recently sold the R1200GS that I have been riding for two years (before that a Ulysses) because I am overseas, and I have been pouring through the reviews to decide what bike I am going to purchase for myself when I return next Fall. I have been super impressed with the 2013 MTS reviews, and since most of my riding will be hardball or medium packed fire roads, I was considering. But MAN...the MTS draws such a strong, negative response from my buddies who are die-hard GS guys. The irony is that 95% never have their bikes in more dirt than is afforded by a well seasoned pot hole, so..."it is sports bike" "it can't handle any dirt". "wait for the new GS". But reading your post and seeing that there is real possibility for the Dirty Duc to live up to the promise...I may just make the switch. Keep the reviews coming!
  9. ten.98

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    Yea, I bought a 2nd set of wheels just for the TKC's. I run PR3's as my primary and I will agree they are awesome.
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    Yea, it's actually pretty funny, I rode over to the DDS event with 3 guys on GS's. They had 2 different routes for the event, one that was all pavement, and one Adventure Route with dirt/sand/gravel and pavement. All three of the GS riders choose to do the all pavement route. Most of the guys doing the adventure route with me were on DR650's, KLR's and KTM 500's. There was one guy on a Triumph Tiger, and another on an older Vstrom, but I don't recall there being any GS's on the dirt route. I'll have to look through my video again.

    And I'm not knocking the technical ability of the GS, but you're right that most people who buy them never seem to exercise that ability. Just like most Ducati sportbike riders have never dragged a knee around a corner.

    Hilarious.
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    :rofl

    That right there is funny, and is exactly the "poser persona" that is so rightly deserved by so many people (regardless of the brand they ride....but one seems to stand out :lol3 ).

    Good on ya for riding your bike any damn place you want, regardless of what it's "supposed to be able to do". :thumb

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  12. Jeffn

    Jeffn Been here awhile

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    That's the "basic" model that MSRP's for $16,995 and likely sold for around $14,995 new as dealers tried to get rid of them. He's added about $1k in luggage, but maybe that too was part of his deal. Assuming he paid $15k, and he's selling for $12k with less than 1k miles on the bike (why???), I'd say he's either loaded (can afford to take the $3k hit in < 1yr) or broke (and when the wife found out he bought a Ducati she kicked his ass out until he sells it!). Either way, yes, it's a good deal, but not a "gift".

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    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    Maybe those three guys were the smartest of the bunch :deal
  15. Dr. Greg

    Dr. Greg Tryin' to get home..

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    So how did them TKC-80s work out for ya? I've got a pair on order right now for MTS12S and I'm interested...

    Thanks.

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  16. Pampero

    Pampero Verbose Adventurer

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    First off, I am not looking to pick a fight or disparage you....have enjoyed quietly reading a lot of your commentary, actually but when I see comments like this it makes me wonder what people think of me. I have been riding for 45 years, almost exclusively paved roads. I love to ride and use my bikes for pleasure and transportation depending on my whim. But I am not a racer and not a dirt guy. I have owned a GS, many sport bikes, a K12R and now this Multi. I won't likely ever drag a knee on it, never dragged a knee on my Mille but really liked riding it. I believe I am a competent rider and like to get it on from time to time, but I don't kid myself about what I am or am not.

    I toured my K12RS (I guess that's what you do with them). I used the GS as a go anywhere every day ride, toured and rode long distance on it but not as an Adventurer tourer in the accepted sense of that word. I just liked the way it worked and handled for me.

    I think calling people out on their choices because they don't use the bike the same way others do is bullshit. Whatever pleasure you get from it, as long as you don't hurt other people or yourself, is just fine with me. I don't get the reverse snobbery and elitism that comes as baggage with the idea that if you don't drag your knee on a sports ride or drop your GS in the mud 16 times you aren't the real deal.

    Kudos and congrats to those who fully enjoy their machines precisely as intended and go interesting places and do amazing feats on them, can wring all 193 HP out of a Panigale and can ride their GS around the world and ford the Amazon, but those who elect to simply enjoy them at whatever level they do have just as valid a claim, can enjoy what they have and are still motorcyclists in my book. I don't have a Dainese leather man purse and don't care for the repli racer look myself, but if it makes somebody happy, fine.

    I sneer at loud pipes run up at 3AM and idiots who make the sport look bad by doing stupid stuff on crowded roads, don't take the time or have the interest to learn basic technique or endanger themselves or others. After that, who cares?
  17. Sock Monkey

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    Didn't mean to offend, but in my defense 1) my comment wasn't directed at anyone, and 2) I was VERY careful to say "by so many people", not "everyone riding brand/style X".

    My comment really stems from experiences like cptapholmes had, where his riding mates gave him shite over his choice of MTS over their GS, then adding that to ten.98's comment about the GS's taking the tarmac route on a DS ride. It just adds up to MY experiences with many people who insist that a certain style (or brand) of bike is needed for a certain type of riding, and that's just not the case, but it's amazing that so many will literally turn their noses up at those who ride "lesser" machines.

    Anyway, don't take anything I said personally. It certainly wasn't meant that way. If I wanted to call out an individual, I would have....I'm funny that way. :D As for what people must think of you, hopefully they form their opinion based on what you say and do, not on what you ride. :thumb

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  18. Pampero

    Pampero Verbose Adventurer

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    I think I may have misunderstood you, and I didn't take it personally. In fact, it looks like we agree. I simply found it expedient to use "me" as an example.

    The general impression for me, and you see a lot of it......more in the G Spot, I think.....is to disparage people's choice because they don't "get dirty enough" regardless if dirty means using a GS off road or sparking your knee sliders. Or to knock a particular ride (the Multi comes in for more than it's share) as a poseur, good for sourcing a cup of coffee but not a legit traveling tool. In the greater world, this is not a very big issue (to say the least!) but if a guy buys a 998 and then decides to hang it from his ceiling as art instead of ride it like a weapon, more power to him. We make our choices for different reasons and it''s not for me to judge somebody's choice even if it isn't my own.

    I get now that you see it the same way I do. BTW, I'm one of those people who will put some miles on his MTS and may find it's weaknesses, which is a big concern. So I'll probably use it as I think it's intended; a fast bike that can take you to a destination with a change of shorts and socks in some style. I'm glad Ducati built it for me. I hope it goes the distance.
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    Sock, since the subject is being discussed, who/what is the one that seems to "stand out" to you? :ear
  20. Sock Monkey

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    You're trying to get me into trouble aren't you..... :wink:

    My personal experience has been that I've met more people who ride a certain brand that are more likely to "look down upon others" if they don't ride that brand, who talk a really BIG game re. their "adventures", and at the end of the day haven't ridden their bikes more than 10 miles on a dirt road. THAT, in my definition, is "posing". It's not the bike brand or style, but the wild-arse claims of daring deeds that they've supposedly performed on their machine which in fact are complete fabrications.

    Hey, everyone has ideas and dreams of what they'll do and where they'll go on their bikes. That's a part of the enjoyment of buying and owning a bike. With luck we'll even get to do some of those things. But that doesn't mean we HAVE to for fear of being called a poser. But berating others for their choice of bike, stating quite flatly that certain bikes can't do A, B, or C, and oh by the way, when I was riding across the Pacific on my way to Atlantis (nice place by the way, you should try their coffee), blah blah blah.....nope, that don't fly with me. :deal

    As Pampero said (I'm paraphrasing here), ride your ride HOW you want to, WHERE you want to, and WHEN you want to, and be happy. I know you feel the same way. :thumb

    Now, back to more MTS goodness, and I hope hope hope ten.98 has more pics for us from his DS ride on those TKCs. My mind has this image of a nearly 6" wide TKC roosting rocks, shrubs, and possibly small animals out of the earth. :lol3

    -SM