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Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by Paulvt1, Sep 10, 2008.
Good job. I'll be @ moto gp in Austin in April too. I'm excited.
Who has what exhaust? Looks like most guys either have full termi or bone stock ?
bone stock, I can't imagine putting a performance exhaust (ie louder) on a bike I'm going to ride long long distances.
+1. Bone stock. Been tempted, but I like quiet bikes...
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Stock for now, planning to get a mivv ghibli when the wife allows it. Far as I can tell, the ghibli is the only exhaust that doesn't have to come off in order to remove the rear wheel.
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Full Termi here
I find it fine on long rides with the DB killer in, but that has more to do with proper ear protection.
Riding is a more visceral and connected experience with the full Termi
QD with db killers in. It is a very reasonable noise level.
My '12 came with the full Termi installed, but the PO also gave me the stock exhaust. I'm actually thinking of switching back to the stock.
I love the Termi sound, but the fueling is spotty with the db killer in, so I removed it and the bike is not really 7am neighborhood friendly in that mode.
I figure I could then sell the Termi set up to an inmate and buy me some other nice goodies to go on the bike, like panniers, aux lights etc.
Perhaps get it tuned for Termis with db killers? Either send off the ECU for flashing or go the tuneboy route. Go pick up the stock midpipe which has the baffling and cat in it. You will rethink putting it on.
he might find that the stock exhaust fueling (with stock ECU) is even worse. either way, the bike's fueling can be improved upon. Multistraddler, if you do decide to put the exhaust back to stock, i'd highly suggest using FatDucs (cost effective) to help the a/f ratio down low.
Sat on a PP last night at the bike show. Damn. What a bike.
I looked into the fatducs before I discovered the db killer fix, so yes, either that or a remap would be in order to rectify the low rpm stumbling. My bike isn't carburetor smooth with the db killer out, but it is much improved in the fueling department.
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No question the stock cat is a lump, but it is a very low slung lump, which mitigates the affect it has on the bike's handling. The PO of the bike weighed the two systems and found the Termi to be 7 lbs lighter. That's about 1% of the combined weight of the bike, me and a typical assortment of gear, so I hardly think I'll miss the extra thrust afforded by the Termi system.
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This is the conclusion I have come to - the extra weight of the stock exhaust is generally minimal compared to the weight of the total bike and the extra power of the termi is also negligible, at least in my hands. In addition, I think the stock exhaust looks better. A termi with the ecu is around 3 grand, so thats a lot to spend for a little gain. Maybe I think that because my bike - an early 2010- never seemed to have fueling problems. If I was going to spend that sort of money on a performance gain, I'd go for some lighter wheels, where I bet you could really feel the difference.
Hi all -
I had the (un)fortunate opportunity of getting an MTS as a loaner for about 5 weeks while my current bike was having some warranty work taken care of. My dealer is one of the good ones and always gives me a loaner while my bike is in his shop. He sells Triumphs and Ducati's so I've had the opportunity to ride quite a number of both flavors. Let's just say the experience with the Multi was positive, and even the wife who usually rides her own bike said she'd had no problems if I traded up after we did a quick 100 mile or so two-up tour Thanksgiving morning. So, pulling that thread I've read a fair bit of what's been written here. Seems like I am down to the task of deciding between the ST and GT models but need some help deciding. Since the differences between the two models are all just parts what are your opinions on:
Crash bars - are there better ones out there?
Are the Barkbusters that are available really just a bar that wraps around the existing hand guards? And do they look OK or just weird?
The extra lights - I ride primarily during the day though this time of year that's not always how things work out. For that reason to me lights are more to be seen that for lighting up the road. Are the ones spec'd on the GT worth it or are there better ones out there? How well does it work and what is the switch like?
The Ducati panniers in general don't look like they'd survive even a driveway tip over. Had this problem once on a previous bike and it was an expensive fix. I don't particularly care for the side-load type of box but it is nice to have ones that just come off with the push of a button to take inside a hotel or where ever. Are they that simple to remove? What are peoples experiences with the current model year boxes ('13 and newer). Are people running other after market boxes? I don't see Ducati listed on Jesse's sight and I've had good experience with those.
More generally, I didn't notice any bars around the dash area to mount a GPS unit via RAM mount or a similar pipe/bar for mounting an Escort or the like. How are people handling this? Is the handlebar the only option?
Thanks for any insight you can give.
My wife and I love to ride all over on our 2010 base line bike with bags. I can tell you that a week of carrying those big bags into the hotel every night sucks! We bought the liners much less bulk and weight to carry in. The other thing that we are planning on is a stiffer back spring. Stock spring is OK for unloaded 2-up, but add the make-up and extra jeans and whatever, and its a squatter, unless you both are right at the 100lb mark and lightweight backpacking is your other hobby.
Stock lighting sucks when 2-up with bags. I have not added any lights, but if you are going to ride at night, I bet a set that mounts to the forks would be a great adder. I think I will be back to camp before dark instead of that few hundred bucks.
That's all I've got on your questions, but I know you'll love it! Have fun.
The barkbusters are just heavy metal that wrap around the existing handguards. They don't look particularly good or bad. I will say that they work well. I dropped the bike once. I had no damage to anything on the handlebars. Also, I had an incident where a lady pulled out in front of me and stopped. The barkbusters were the point of impact. The handlebars bent, but the stock handguard, mirror, clutch lever, and most importantly my hand were all untouched. The barkbusters didn't even bend from the impact.
As for lighting, there are many options out there. I wouldn't necessarily go with the GT lights. I'm sure they work fine, but you can get more for less going with aftermarket. Anything PIAA will be good. The Denalis that twistedthrottle.com has are pretty dang good too.
As for the panniers, I love them. The integrate well into the bike. The left holds a full face helmet. They come off easily. I do recommend liners. I will say that the connection is fragile. When I dropped the bike, I broke a couple of tabs off where the pannier mounts. However, you still can mount the panniers if this happens. You just have to use a little more care when putting them on. So it isn't the end of the world if you drop the bike with the panniers on.
As for mounting goodies, the handlebar is the primary option. I have a touratech mount for my gps that goes over the handlebar clamp. It is ridiculously expensive (its touratech...) but it works great. It locks the GPS. There is another option called a navihalter. I know it works on 2010-2012 Multis. I am not sure if it works on 13+. I would guess not. The navihalter connects to the grab bar on the windshield. It allows items to be mounted up above the dash. The main problem with the navihalter is it made and sold in Germany. Some have managed thru their website using a translator. I hear it is a PITA.
Best of luck. It is a great bike.
Guess I need to take another look at one to see what this grab bar on the windscreen is capable of.