Dynabeads vs Ride On vs Static Balancer

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by jsalman93, Nov 14, 2012.

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Ride On, Dynabeads, or Static Balancer

  1. Ride On

  2. Dynabeads

  3. Static Balancer

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  1. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    I hadn't found that test with the spin balancer. Interesting. I feel no low speed wobble at all. I really do feel a difference overall, but it is very, very subtle.Basically just less vibration but there is still some, more than before the tire swap. The bigger issues I have, the decel wobble and axle shake, still remain.
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  2. mpatch

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    Had the same issue on my vstrom it ended up being a combo of loose stem nut and a worn tire, tightening the stem to specs helped a bit but the major change was putting on a different tire. Night and day difference
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  3. GT-STMC

    GT-STMC Been here awhile

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    Static balance, then Ride-On. Been doing 8 to 12 tires a day, 6 days a week for years. Using/Selling Ride-On for about a year, great stuff.
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  4. duckman44

    duckman44 Been here awhile

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    I have been using beads for a few years now. I have put them in evrything from my H1 Hummer to my Ducati 1098 and never had an issue with balance. I do find that on a tire with a tube and rim lock, you must use more than recommended. Sometimes twice the amount.

    I just ordered some Ride on as a friend of mine just started using it in his KTM EXC 530 and loves it.
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  5. Navin

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    Well, thanks to a few hours to kill, coldish temps and my tire change machine I decided to really test these things out.

    I swapped on the original, 400 mile old IRC front tire. No balance, no beads. Everything was the same with maybe a slightly lower vibration at the bar ends. Axle still dancing at 80, no obvious signs of imbalance anywhere though, smooth ride.

    Next, added the beads which after 200 miles are covered in black tire dust causing them to bunch up trying to put them back in thru the stem. Total PITA. I ended up using my compressor to blow them thru as my vibrating tool didn't move them at all. No difference and if it vibrated less it could just be my imagination at this point.

    Now, back on went the Conti. No beads. Now I'm pretty sure the vibration difference is just in my head. Here is the kicker, at 75-80 where all the other combos had the axle buzzing to where it looked fuzzy to my eye, dead calm now. I did it 3 times to be sure. It stopped shaking!

    Every tire combo still had the decel headshake at 50-40 MPH. I tightened up the steering head bearings again that had originally come loose at the 1000 mile mark on this new Ninja 300 and it got less severe but still very obvious.

    I'll be swapping in real roller bearings to tame that, fingers crossed.

    My opinion after these back to back test on the same day, same bike, same roads is these Dyna Beads do nothing. My bike has the unbalanced front Conti on it now and rides as well with or without the beads up to at least 80 MPH.

    I never touched the rear tire, matching Conti with beads till I wear it out, change it and toss the things in the trash. This is the first streetbike that I thought I had a wheel balance problem with. I've been thru dozens of 17" tires without ever balancing any of them. I never felt them have any problem.

    Waste of $30.
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  6. Navin

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    Still searching for the cure to my 50-40 MPH decel wobble with no hands on the bars so I bought a HF balance stand. Wheels static balanced and the same thing, bike feels the same too. Same vibes, nothing different. I own it now so I guess I'll use it but it seems again to make no difference at all.
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  7. mpatch

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    Possibly the rear end causing the problem?
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  8. Navin

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    My 2003 ZZR1200 did the same thing and I actually returned to the dealership before I got it home the day it was delivered. They said, accorcing to Kawasaki, keep your hands on the bars. :lol3 I owned another a few years later and same thing. 2200 mile bike that time.

    Is it a problem? Well, it bugs me and my other street bikes don't do it. I'm betting it is the ball bearing steering head. I'll be going to tapered rollers next. I'll measure up the rear wheel alignment too, good idea.

    New 2013 Ninja 300 with 1300 miles.
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  9. jsalman93

    jsalman93 Been here awhile

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    I would imagine that any decel wobble from the beads would eventually go away, as they are supposed to cause the tire to wear evenly.

    has anyone experiened otherwise? Also, looking into using Ride-on for a dualsport project bike. Any thoughts or opinions.
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