E15 to E85 coming to a pump near you!

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by coach03860, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. 1911fan

    1911fan Master of the Obvious

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    So you've read his posts?


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  2. eddyturn

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    FUCK. Only local gas station just switched to ethanol fuel. Said it was against the law to sell regular fuel so they had to quit. Only reason I went there anyway. Shit. Truck got 17 MPG tops with ethanol fuel and moved to new city and have been getting 21-23 MPG even with air-conditioning going. Live in the mountains so power will just suck more inefficient fuel down the drain. No science, just put 165,000 on the same truck and feel/know these things. Fuck the corn lobby and if EPA mandates are not government subsidies - you're full of it. :deal
  3. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Awww, does little eddy need a hug?
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    Yep, completely out of meaningful contributions to the discussion.
  5. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    He never had any to begin with. :lol3
  7. GapRunr

    GapRunr Been here awhile

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    Hmmm... Did I mention the new gas station that just opened up 2 miles from work? They have pure gas, pay at the pump, and if you use their debit card it's 10 cents off a gallon. :D

    For those that are curious, E10 regular is $3.15 and E0 regular is $3.37. E10 Premium is $3.45. This is in Tennessee just north of Deals Gap.


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  8. freetors

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    How in the heck do people tolerate a daily driver pickup truck that gets less than 20 mpg?! Heck our 2000 chevy silverado with the 4.8 gets over 20.
  9. SnowMule

    SnowMule [angry moth noises]

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    That's why I have a motorcycle that gets 60+mpg in town. Truck's just for trucky stuff. :deal
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    :clap:clap:clap Sweet! I envy you!


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  11. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    LOL, if you're concerned about getting gas mileage then a truck is the last damn thing you should be driving even if it gets 30 MPG. :rofl
  12. Aj Mick

    Aj Mick Been here awhile

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    Go on to the next gas station. That being said.......

    My little 16 year-old 100 cc Honda is not gasohol compatible. It is properly maintained and reliable, gets better than 100 mpg, has done 216,000 km, and should be good for many more. I see no need to replace it, but getting 100% gasoline is getting difficult.

    The powers that be in Thailand have seen fit to discourage the use of gasoline, so now only 4 gas stations on the island I live on stock it.... but they do good sales to motorcyclists. Registered motorcycles outnumber cars by three to one. A good few of them are over ten years old and cannot use gasohol..... We are stuck with having to buy 95 octane gasoline for machines that run fine on 91 octane, and paying 30% more than gasohol 91.

    Oh well, I suppose it keeps some people happy; those who can afford to drive cars and/or ride new motorcycles. The hoi polloi are stuck with paying more for gasoline, or stumping up with the deposit on a flash new bike and paying it off at hefty interest rates. That will make gasohol producers and finance companies smile too.
  13. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Ok kids, today I tried a little experiment. I filled my 2013 Stelvio with E-0 premium in Amarillo for $3.75 per gallon. I could have bought E-10 premium for $3.35. I rode into Amarillo from the south with a strong southerly wind and the bike computer showed 52 mpg on E-10. I reset one of the trip computers after putting almost 8 gallons of E-0 in the tank and continued northward with a continued strong southerly wind. Stopping in Tribune KS for the evening my mileage on E-0 is exactly the same as was the E-10. The final 50 miles or so saw the tail wind abate so I'm willing to give the E-0 a 1 mpg advantage. That means under this very unscientific teats, E-10 is the more economical fuel.

    Suck it, bitches.:evil
  14. Steve G.

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    We don't care what you think. You're bias clearly confirms anything you say on this subject must be observed with doubt.

    Go back to the corn fermentation factory, you'll be in your element.
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    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Well then don't use E-15 or get a new dealer, dumb ass.
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    And lets say that all the gas stations where you live only sell E10 or E15, then what do they say? I'm willing to bet that if the only gas available in the area is E10 or E15 that the dealer won't say a thing.
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    So once again you have a vehicle that defies the laws of physics, you need to turn all of your vehicles over to a qualified research agency as soon as possible so they can determine how your vehicles can get the same fuel efficiency on fuel that contains less energy potential cause it is worth billions.... :evil

    Or just admit that your obvious brainwashing by the corn ethanol lobby has blinded you to facts... :deal

    The rest of us live in reality where fuel with lower energy potential per volume equals lower efficiency....
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    I think his element's in the pasture.:topes
  19. 1911fan

    1911fan Master of the Obvious

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    It's not the dealer, it's the manufacturer, dumbass. They specify fuel the same way they specify oil: by design. If you run 20w50 dino oil in an engine (like my Tundra 5.7L) that specifies 0w20 or 5w20 full synthetic, you can expect problems. If your vehicle is under warranty, the manufacturer can and will deny warranty claims for damage done by abuse or neglect. These include the wrong fluids.
    Now, I've only been in the service end of the car business for over 25 years, so I don't know everything. But it's evident that I know more than you do. I know it's a matter of time before somebody damages an engine by running it on E85, or even E15, and the manufacturer denies the claim. Manufacturers have the right to request any parts replaced under warranty be returned to them for inspection, and you can bet they're watching for ethanol-related damage. They'll deny these claims, which means the dealer will have to eat the time and labor spent repairing the car. Which will be expensive, likely an entire engine assembly.
    Dealers are in the business to make money. Smart ones won't make expensive repairs due to nonspecified fluids, including fuel, that they will end up paying for. Chrysler, who I currently work for, requires photos be digitally submitted before the work is performed on internal powertrain repairs. Melted pistons will set off alarms. Claim will be denied, and then the owner who ran the wrong fuel in their vehicle will be stuck with a very expensive bill.
    In your own words, Stevie88, suck it, bitch!

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  20. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    So you nancy boys think that a car designed to use E-10 will have a catastrophic engine failure if you burn E-15? :rofl:rofl:rofl