Thanks for that. I have been doing a lot of the parking lot games at my son's elementary school. Figure 8's between the light poles. I am glad that my downhill mountain bike has hydrolic breaks. It is really easy to lock up the front disc on a 25lb bike, so I have learned respect early. Thanks for all of the advice. Looks like I won'y be able to make the 7 Springs to Bloody Basin ride. I think it is too much mileage for my skill level. I will try to catch the next one when I am a little more comfortable on the bike. Thanks Bill for the invite.