East of Phoenix Rider's Group

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by 750Volts!, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. MrGoldfish

    MrGoldfish Been here awhile

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    On our Toroweap trip we did 120 miles of dirt and I had Shinko 705's and Paul had the K60 Scouts. We both did fine. I guess it depends on how big of a roost you want to be able to throw. :evil
  2. 2 SPOT

    2 SPOT wannabe

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    i have tried a few different tubless systems including simple silicone and duct tape,,, they all worked just fine but there is a common item to look out for. spoked rims arent meant for tubless so they arent meant to seal well around the bead with the knurled tire grip area, so, slow leaks could be a problem. i have a few that did and a few that didnt. tubliss addresses the issue by sqeezing the tire with the 100psi tube, its a $200 investment thats worth it for some, not so much for me.


    on the tires, havent run 705's but i have run heidi's,,, on hard pack and street they are great, but the looser and rockier it get the more slipping you'll do. they were just as i thought they would be, and on the tiger they fit well with the terrain and speed i was riding, i wouldnt be happy with them on the ktm.

    IMOP the kenda 270 is a better tire when off road. the irc gp1 is the same tires with a bit softer rubber for improved grip, and shinko has a version as well, though i dont know anything about it.
  3. IBRiding

    IBRiding Been here awhile

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    Julio,

    Thanks for the info, this ride might be better than I thought. Hope you can make it.

    Right now it looks like we have 3 confirmed.


    Bill
  4. Dirtbiker78

    Dirtbiker78 Getting there...

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    I'm currently running the Mitas E10's and they hook up really nicely in the dirt but they're not very good on tar and have a bit of a sketchy feel to them in corners. My back one wore out super fast on the Torroweep ride, but I should get a few more miles on it which will take me to around 2 500 miles, which is kind of what I was expecting out of it.
    I"ve ordered a Heidenau k60 scout for my rear but I'm going to keep my nobby E10 up front, it's still got plenty of life left in it and that's the important one in the dirt anyway, Also it looks like I should get about 5 000 on the front E10.
  5. Dirtbiker78

    Dirtbiker78 Getting there...

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    Looking forward to seeing your photos :lurk
  6. awlittle

    awlittle Being awesome1/2 the time

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    Apologies for not reading all 100 pages but I wanted to ask if there was a weekly or monthly meeting of riders. I recently got an f800gs after a string of road bikes and stupid long road trips. Looking forward to exploring the State I use to always rush out of for greener pastures!:lol3
  7. Dirtbiker78

    Dirtbiker78 Getting there...

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    Hi,

    Welcome to the group.
    There's a ride on Saturday. Tie up with Ibriding if you wanna tag along :thumb

    Dirtbiker78
  8. awlittle

    awlittle Being awesome1/2 the time

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    Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately my bike won't be back from GA until next weekend (long, boring story) and I'll hopefully be running a race in the corvette this weekend...if it's ready. I'll keep checking. Thanks!
  9. Dirtbiker78

    Dirtbiker78 Getting there...

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    :thumb
  10. 4play

    4play Next?

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    I've been running Tubliss for about a year and have been through 7 tires, no issues. I had one flat that I was able to plug and finis a 200 mile offroad day. Tubliss only comes in 21,19 & 18" sizes so far.

    I'm running the Mefo Super Explorer on the rear of the Ninja, 1500 miles so far and For most of what we do in AZ I'm very pleased. I've done Buckhorn wash, Copperopolis, Camp Verde to Lake Mary, Table Mesa the GWT with no issues.
  11. AzTinBender

    AzTinBender Adventurer

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    Mountain bikers who don't want to spend the big bucks on tubeless wheels do something called 'Ghetto Tubless.' It involves splitting a tube down the center and using it as a rim strip to seal the spoke holes. It also seals the bead and provides the valve stem. I've been doing it on my MTB's since January with out a problem. I've seen youtube videos of people doing it on motorcycles. Search 'ghetto tubeless' on youtube. It's cheap, easy and it works (on MTB's, I've seen videos but don't have actuall experience with it on a motorcycle...yet).
  12. IBRiding

    IBRiding Been here awhile

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    How does this sound? We meet at the Chevron on Idaho Rd and the 60 at 7:00 Saturday. We can stop for some chow in Globe and then hit the Coolidge Dam on the way out. It is on the way and will add a little more dirt to the ride?

    After that it is up to the mountain to see all it has to offer. I figure we can stop for Mexican food in Superior on the way back and if anyone is on a hurry they can just continue on back to town?

    So far this is who is in

    IBRiding
    AzTinBender
    Dirtbiker78
    cyberdos (Maybe)



    Oh Yea, MrGoldfish - How are the photos of Toroweap looking? I can't wait to see them.
  13. IBRiding

    IBRiding Been here awhile

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    Paul,

    Great idea, I need to finally get back into some type of shape (Well other than round that is) I am game for pretty much anything but was seriously thinking about getting a cheap mountain bike to start. I know someone who knows a little bit about mountain bikes and where to ride:lol3
  14. CrownRoyal

    CrownRoyal Been here awhile

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    Staying active! As in sweating, dam thats some crazy shiz. :lol3 Thats actually a good idea. I have gone to the round shape. My mountain bike could use some good use. I wonder if I could transport the mountain bike on my KTM? Now that would be a sight. :evil If I can get my ass out of bed early enough I willl join you guys going to Mt Graham.
  15. IBRiding

    IBRiding Been here awhile

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    Damn Paul,

    That's got to hurt like a son of a bitch.


    Bill
  16. IBRiding

    IBRiding Been here awhile

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    Crown,

    Hope to see you Saturday.


    Bill
  17. seabee1

    seabee1 we build, we fight

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    What in the world kind of boots were you wearing, Paul?
  18. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    Damn. I was looking at mileage and that's gonna be a hell of a long day. :patch
  19. Dirtbiker78

    Dirtbiker78 Getting there...

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    WOW!!! That ankle has some serious colour to it :huh
  20. IBRiding

    IBRiding Been here awhile

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    Look at the bright side, it will be a lot cooler in the valley getting back at night.