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Discussion in 'Australia' started by oodeano, May 16, 2014.
Yes....I wouldn't be buying one yet...but I would love a ride...
THE NOISE QUESTION:
Yep... for the last three or four generations of motorsport enthusiasts - brought up with the audio afrodisiac of high performance internal combustion generated exhaust notes... for sure, the lack of "throttle/acceleration" acoustics - is a big let down as far as viewing/listening to an electric vehicle's performance on track etc. Initially this IS going to be one of the hurdles to address - as far as the viewing (paying) public is concerned... at least as far as creating a spectacle that attracts the public/fans... audio is a BIG part of the audio/visual attraction of motorsport - traditionally.
Just look at the comments when F1 made the engine format changes a few seasons back (and reduced/altered the engine noise component)... The same whenever we discuss the ALTA Redline's future in supercross racing... as a result of the advances it made in the SX season this past year... within two (max three) posts, someone always mentions the (boring) lack of engine noise.
It is the same "lack of noise" that contributes to two other key points about the new wave of e-motos...
The very abscence of the motor noise is what makes these machines interesting as stealthy or increasingly socially acceptable modes of offroad transportation... Adventure riding and trail riding applications should be benefited - as "noise" has always been one of the biggest criticisms from the non-riding public.
But out in traffic... the lack engine of noise can also be a safety issue... pedestrians and other motorists (already - many of whom seem to posses a blind spot for motorcycles) will more easily be "surprised" by the sudden presence of these silent moto's... so the "loud pipes save lives" brigade will no doubt trott out that little cherry in support of their case.
Silent motorsport eh...? Wonder how many would still watch x-rated films... if they turned the sound off...?
An electric trials bike would be very useful in suburbia - there are some nice parks near me.
Mate ~ during my recent extensive ALTA MOTORS REDSHIFT Supermoto test run, was just amazed on how many pedestrians and humans in cars pointed at me "whizzing" by at some good solid speeds overtaking cars on the interstate (USA) but little noise ~ truly wicked fun, try one if you have the chance.... https://www.altamotors.co and Down Under has a few arriving shortly was told ~ might not be through a appointed Oz distributor just yet....
Check this out = https://www.altamotors.co/redshift-st-los-angeles-1/ as pictures say more than words...
Fast Angry Electric KTM Freeride E-XC - RedBull 111 Prolog
Electric KTM Freeride E-XC - Tor Enduro Krzeszowice
The future, right there.....
I saw this already. Impressive they can now keep up with a petrol motor over 1/2 mile straight track? Not for me ...
Charge times for that power?
Look at 6.02 in the KTM 111 Prolog video. 5mins of full power and the batteries are already at 30%. Not too sure I’d want to trailer to the bush for a 15 min ride.
Hmmm ... I’d be interested to know how many of the people who have read this thread over the last 3.5 years own or have any intention of buying one of these bikes.
Bigborett has it right ... only those with seriously deep pockets will be buying these any time soon as you’ll be taking a serious bath on resale ... particularly with the threat of ‘major’ technology advances/changes in years to come. Only other people riding these things are the pro riders we see in these marketing videos.
Love the idea ... I’ll check back in sometime in 2024.
Honda's Fancy New E-Bike Stands on its Own ~ we all know that a motorcycle's natural state is lying on its side in a pool of gasoline, and that it will do anything in its power to reach that state. What if someone built a bike that didn't fall over at the least provocation, though? It looks like the House that Soichiro built has finally come up with a way to tame the motorcycle's natural tendency to flop over with their newest concept – the Riding Assist-e.... https://rideapart.com/articles/honda-stands-on-its-own
^^^ It might not fall over on it's own... but spontaneously, I have to say... that appearance wise - this bike reminds me of a labrador with worms... hunched down and dragging it's arse along on the grass...
One day when i have some spare time and $ (maybe in 40 yrs or so) i want to do a hybrid conversion retro fit kit.
Front hub motor, small generator driven off the countershaft and a small batery pack.
Idea being the front hub is only used when needed and also the genrator could also be used as a motor to give a small power boost fot a short period of time.
From my limited knowledge of motors and controllers all the stuff needed to make this happen is already avaible so technically it wouldnt be that hard to do, maybe
Its not a new idea, from what im told the ktm rally department did something similiar.
Thanks for that link Joe, really interesting read. I wonder how far along that concept is... If the US military decide to use them it'd be a massive shot in the arm for Alta. It'd go a long way to taking them from nieche player to a decent sized manufacturer, with the associated extra cash for more r and d.
Redshift enduro announced....
Thanks for this post, this is great news. 4 hours of trail riding! Pretty amazing. Even if it works out to 2-3 hours, that covers most of my local loops.
Please, Alta, get your bikes to Australia posthaste!
Sweet! That is the bike I wanted to see them produce!
Now about that pesky lack of range.... Still not enough to make it here.
Here's the official Alta Redshift EX video :
Riders responses/opinions of the Redshift EX :
Range looks to be at least 2 hours; up to 4 according to the pamphlet. This is pretty game changing if you're an enduro rider. To be able to trailer to a location, unload your bike, hoon around some awesome mixed trails for a few hours, then load back up - well that's what I've been waiting for in an E dirtbike for a while . . . looks like Alta have this available in the USA now. I'm drinking the coolaid, I know - but hey - it's damn tasty and intoxicating.