Elefant Sightings?

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by erappaport, May 24, 2006.

  1. MC-Leather

    MC-Leather Been here awhile

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    I know the bike with the Yellow coat, it belongs to fellow MAD club member, his name is Walt. I think the other one was sold by another MAD member, his name was Kevin. I don't know who owns it now.
  2. 800SSDuc

    800SSDuc Who is John Galt?

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    Yep, I recognized it as soon as I pulled into the Starbucks sunday morning.:D
  3. MC-Leather

    MC-Leather Been here awhile

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    Small world.
  4. motomikedh

    motomikedh Been here awhile

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    I've had my bike awhile now and I'm looking for some info from people who have actually done this upgrade/mod to their bikes.I want to upgrade my suspension with new forks and rear shock. I am considering rebuilding wheels for a 21/18 combo, but I have concerns with clearance issue on the front and rear. Has anyone done this successfully and got full wheel travel, or do you skid the rear tire on the inner fender.I also want to find out what front forks are compatible with the current stock crown setup that we all have. I know I can get a custom shock for the rear so I'm not worried about that, just the front. If anyone has suggestions on success or failure, I'd love to hear it. I'm sure others may pay close attention too. Thanks. Let's all get together for a ralleye this year and show off our BA Elefants !!!
  5. azcagiva

    azcagiva new orange flavor

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    There is a way to adapt the twin cartridge internals into the stock uppers. It takes a little machining to the lower aluminum "cups" that are on the elefant. You use the donor sliders for extra travel. This way you can keep everything stock looking and use the brakes, fender mounts, speedo drive etc... You just need to find a donor set of some showa USD 45mm's off a honda. A friend of mine just had racetech do this for him last year (Alfred's bike).

    Or you could do what I had to do after the "cups" were screwed up by the machinist. I ended up putting some 50mm conventional forks on. I used two of the brake side legs, so I could use my stock hub and twin rotors. I had a friend(John Deykes) make an axle and other parts for me. I also had some spacers made so the tubes would fit in the triple clamps. I had a 21" wheel laced onto the stock hub also. I have kept the 17" rear. John Deykes has the same front end on his bike too. I have a wilbers shock on order for the rear to replace my reworked stock boge.

    Or you could use the complete front end off a honda or similar bike. Provided the center of the fork tubes is the same on both bikes, so the axle and other parts would work. This way you have to use the donor bikes fender, speedo drive, axle, hub and wheel.

    -John
  6. christian

    christian Exchange your GPS Track!

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    I looked at putting a 21" front wheels and maybe different fork,
    so far what I found out is that the 43mm Upside down fork from KTM would slide right in the Triple clamp.
    Now I don't know yet if the distance between the fork leg is the same as the KTM - If yes, I could re-use the KTM wheel and axle.
    For that I need to check on a KTM again.
    But that would bring it to a single front disk, but putting a 320mm rotor would probably work just fine as the Elefant 750 in Europe had that single disk too.

    That's how far I am right now :-) and I am in no rush to do it anyway.
    so I keep my hears open for other solutions.
  7. 5th-Elefant

    5th-Elefant Long timer

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    Take a look at the Elefant list, I'm sure there's some stuff on there:

    http://www.elefantman.com/

    From memory I believe the entire front end of a KTM will swap over. I imagine that would include the triple clamps. I haven't done a front end swap on the Elefant but I have on other bikes, often just swapping out the head races will allow you to do a swap. Obviously a complete front end swap keeps things simple as far as matching up brakes, mudguards etc (as there's nothing to match if you replace everything).

    I'd see if the 50mm RWU WPs that were on some late 90s KTMs would do. Awesome fork and should be cheap (the cool kids don't want RWUs).

    It seems a reasonably common swap so I imagine clearance isn't an issue.
  8. «dmx_must_fly»

    «dmx_must_fly» Elefant Rider

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    has any one here replaced the original clutch pump with one from a monster?
    does the lever pull really get lighter?
    if any one did it could you give the exact model and year or the part number?
    Cheers
    Yovav with a smashed left wrist and a too heavy clutch pull
  9. 5th-Elefant

    5th-Elefant Long timer

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    Have a drive round and look for one parked up. Give it a squeeze. That should tell you.
  10. «dmx_must_fly»

    «dmx_must_fly» Elefant Rider

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    thing is its preety rare to see a ducati on the streets here
    and I am going to fly to Italy to get all the parts for my engine so I wanted the part number or the exact model and year that will fit the Fant so there will be no troubles here
    with the smashed wrist, my new baby and my engenering school I have no spare time to go around and look for some thing vary rare...
  11. 5th-Elefant

    5th-Elefant Long timer

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    I did think you might say that....

    It's all about cylinder ratios. If you can find piston sizes anywhere for both bikes you'll be able to tell if they're the same or not.

    Or you could change the slave: http://ducatigarage.netfirms.com/cylinders.html
  12. Nixels

    Nixels Face fears - live life

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    Ok, I was cruising the Flea Market and found these two Fants for sale.

    The first is a '95 900ie in Florida.


    And the second one is a 94 900e in Washington. This is a good deal, but probably needs some work.

    I don't know either of these guys, but I'm pretty sure they don't know about this thread.
  13. MC-Leather

    MC-Leather Been here awhile

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    Gravel road season is here and I've been picking up the speed a bit so I was thinking about crash bars. The only ones I can find are the Hepco ones. Anybody have them. Anybody have something else? Anybody have anything for sale?
  14. Jerrykap

    Jerrykap Motorbike mishugana

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    Am I the 1st guy to ride an`87 650 down into the Copper Canyon? Where's my prize? I went to the ADV gathering in Creel and did all the good stuff in the area.

    Actually the bike was damn near perfect. No problems at all other than me overloading the subframe. Even it's rather poor gas mileage was never a problem with 140 mile range.

    C-ya, :norton

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    Jerrykap Motorbike mishugana

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    Deep down in the Barrancas.

    C-ya, Jer:norton

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  16. Jerrykap

    Jerrykap Motorbike mishugana

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    Now that she's home I'll give her lots of TLC so that we can do it again.

    C-ya, :norton

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  17. motomikedh

    motomikedh Been here awhile

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    I've got the Hepco Becker bars, and I know a lot of people on this thread have them. I just put them on recently and they are burly !! I hope to never use them, but the bike looks even more tough with them on. My friends KTM 640 has bars and they are flimsy and wimpy. Go for the Hepco's.
  18. Lamin Sambou

    Lamin Sambou Lamin

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    got them on my 900,
    mine came with fitting instructions in german.
    Had to turn down the spacers to get them fitting properly at the back.

    I did have a nice low side trying to get my knee down and they stopped the bodywork getting damaged.
    The passenger foot pegs and ktm handgaurds save the rest of the bike.
    I did get my knee down, closely followed by elbow and hip.



    the bars also provide a place to zip tie on a camcorder
    http://uk.youtube.com/user/yahyajammeh
  19. Lamin Sambou

    Lamin Sambou Lamin

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    nice bike.

    could you post some pics of the endcan with the side panel removed?

    thanks
    andyp
  20. motomikedh

    motomikedh Been here awhile

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    Nice bike Durangoman, looks like mine. Hope to see you in Moab someday!!!


    Just wanted to pass along some fork info for everyone. I am currently trying to cross over the front end for a KTM 43mm setup. The triple clamps from the KTM have the perfect steer tube length for the head tube of the Elefant. After I get this thing put back together I will let you all know what springs I had to order and any other misc. info. Just wanted to share.