Elefant Technical Thread

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by motomikedh, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. flyben

    flyben Adventurer

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    Hi guys ..

    about the footpegs extensions, I get in touch with work connections .. they send me to BTO sports http://www.btosports.com/
    cause they can send to France ..
    I send an email .. and the same day I get an answer, quick and reliable.
    We consider together to make a deal for some sets (wich are 1"1/4 for the fant) and get a discount ;-)

    so everything is nice. I should receive everything mid-april cause they are now just pre-ordered (actually backordered). I get the invoice very quickly too

    I'll keep you informed but I would say it's a good adress

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  2. Don't shoot me!!!

    Don't shoot me!!! Snowflakes are cold...

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    So, what you're saying is that they don't got it at the time.
    But may get it in April??? (Is this going to be like waiting for parts from Italy?)
    Frak, allways when i need something:huh
    So, i ask again.
    Does annyone know of a set of pegs that fit the Elefant?
    Or do we need to weld on a set of universal mx pegs? :(:
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  3. flyben

    flyben Adventurer

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    difference is : not may in april but they'll receive them at the end of march.
    everything was sold .. they build some new in 1,1/4 size. if you want other sizes are available

    it's not a "not anymore supported" product :clap
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  4. Nixels

    Nixels Face fears - live life

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    motomikedh:

    Great thread - why'd it take so long? :scratch

    I'll be getting my '94 e900 back from Munroe Motors next week. Had to have new pistons, reline the cylinders - nicasil and new valve stems. The bike has only 30K on it. When I get it back, I'll put on the HB crash bars I bought from EAB Lab.

    Soon I will need to upgrade the ignition electrics.

    I'm sure I'll have tech questions - and I'm glad this thread is here for a resource. :clap :clap :clap
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  5. RichBeBe

    RichBeBe All Hail Seitan!!!

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    I may be having my first major problem with my Fant. I had the flu which knocked me out and I haven't ridden. Lat week I went to start it and it wouldn't start. Today I decided to look into it and it has spark and fuel but won't start. I took the tank off and airbox cover and tried to start it and I noticed the rear cylinder was not really creating much vacuum. I used some starter fluid and it fired and then blew raw gas and flames out of the carb. I was able to blow the fire out but something is probably amiss with the timing. I am guessing maybe my belt jumped. It was getting dark and I have no energy so I will look at it again one day this week.
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  6. Speeddog830

    Speeddog830 Interloper

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    Pull the belt covers off, and rotate the engine so that the dot on the drive pulley lines up with the hashmark on the sidecover.
    Then check each cam pulley to see that the dots line up with the marks on the belt housings.

    When were the belts last replaced?
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  7. azcagiva

    azcagiva new orange flavor

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    Hey everyone,

    I put in my new Hyper Pro shock this last weekend and thought I would share with you guys my experience. I Ordered a shock from EPM. I thought I was ordering a wilbers but got the HP instead. I had it made an inch longer to match the height of my front forks. I did not specify which end to make longer. I assumed they would lengthen the bottom end like I did to the stock unit. Turns out they made it longer at the top. When I first recieved the shock I thought, oh shit, this is gonna be expensive to change. Once I calmed down I went out to the shop and did some measuring and figured out it would probably fit. So months later I started the project and here goes:

    I pulled the battery first and then the subframe. I then stuffed the shock in. If the bike was stock I wouldn't have had to do much more after this. Anyway nothing I do is easy, here is a pic.
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    Because the shock is longer I had to clearance a few things. (Also as you can see in the picture I had to back off the preload nut and compress the shock to get it in the bike). Once in, the shock had a few things that needed to be filed a bit. Nothing like grinding on your new $900.00 shock. If grinding on my new shock wasn't enough, the cagiva wishbone link was still hitting the shock. So I had to grind the wishbone a little all the while wondering where I would find another one if I screwed this one up.
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    (I also need to point out that there are needle bearings in the wishbone. One needs to be very careful to avoid knocking them out on to the floor).
    After all the grinding and filing I ended up with about a 1/16" clearance. This was important because a friend of mine bent his shock because these parts were hitting. I greased all the needle bearings and tightened all the bolts. The remote resevoir I ended up attaching to the right of the shock on the frame.
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    I will probably drill some holes in the side plastic so I can adjust the compression without taking the side panel off.

    I take the bike out and ride a little and I think I need a stiffer spring. The preload nut is about a 1\2" from the last of the threads and I still get about 3" of sag. I was hoping to be able to crank it down for when I had luggage and stuff on. I put a call into the shock guy today but I called too late and left him a message to call me back. I will let you know how it turns out. My overall impression of the shock is, it's ok. I think these guys are more street oriented and I ride mostly offroad. I think with some tweeking I can get it where I like it.


    Here are some pics of my front fork setup if anyone is interested.
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    My bash plate and shifter
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    After reading through this it really didn't seem too hard. If anyone else is going the same route as I did I would have them offset drill the bottom hole on the shock mount so one wouldn't have to do much grinding.

    -John
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  8. christian

    christian Exchange your GPS Track!

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    Hi ,
    I just opened my carb and I found

    Idle - 42.5 -no holes on the side, an other one I got with the bike in a box has holes in the side, does it changes anything ?

    Main - 132.5 I have a staintune and KN filter, should I change anything ? I have 130, 125 and 127.5 in the box.

    The one blocking the main - 70 .

    Needle - 4th clip from the bottom - or 2nd from the top.

    I ride mostly sea level --> 5000ft should I change anything ?

    Also how many turns out on the air mixture screw ?

    Thanks.

    Christian
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  9. flyben

    flyben Adventurer

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    what fork is it ??

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  10. azcagiva

    azcagiva new orange flavor

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    My forks are 50mm showas. I used two left legs so I could keep my twin rotor setup.

    -John
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  11. flyben

    flyben Adventurer

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    nice work ..
    no I'm looking for a front brake caliper support off an adventure 1998 - 2000 to put my WP50 extreme on the fant ..

    I think I'll try to draw a support and let it done there to adapt a TTR brembo front caliper

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  12. Nixels

    Nixels Face fears - live life

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    I've gotten the HB guards from DDL, but the instructions are somewhat less than instructive. :flip :deal

    There's no instruction online that I can find.

    Has anyone done this on an E900? I can't seem to get the left side engine mount to get past the frame. It seems like I either have to grind the L-bracket or re-weld it at an acute angle so that it will clear the frame/engine mount.

    Thanks.
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  13. motomikedh

    motomikedh Been here awhile

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    Mine worked fine. I can send pictures this weekend as I am out on work. Don't do anything to your brand new bars, they will fit.
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  14. Nixels

    Nixels Face fears - live life

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    Pix would be good, but a little discussion may solve the mystery. It looks like the L-bracket doesn't clear the frame given the angle needed to slide the front frame mounting U-bolt in position. There's a solid 1/16" metal in the way on the L-bracket, so if I grind a chamfer into it, that should make it clear.

    Did you have problems with this upward angle positioning?
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  15. azcagiva

    azcagiva new orange flavor

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    My hi/lo headlight switch broke awhile ago. I found a similar replacement at chaparral. It is a little different and required one small mod to make it work like the stock one. Now I have a switch that controls the taillight and the head lights. So now I can turn off all the lights to help with battery charging.
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    The part that says kill switch is used to flash the high beams now. I added some relays to control the lights and they are brighter than ever. It also has a high beam indicator on the switch.

    If anyone is interested let me know and I can tell you how to modify the switch to mimic the stock one.

    -John
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  16. RichBeBe

    RichBeBe All Hail Seitan!!!

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    Email Michael and he will get right back to you with whatever info you need. His service has been impeccable for me.
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  17. Nixels

    Nixels Face fears - live life

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    I've got an email into Michael. Figured you FF's were always around. :deal

    Here's the rear L-bracket in place. Notice the 30+ degrees angle at the top of the bracket as it hits the frame:

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    Front alignment:

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    Here's the L-bracket where it needs to be for the front to be in place - but the bracket can't fit behind at that angle:

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  18. G-Funk

    G-Funk That ... Umm ..... "Dude"

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    Hey everyone ....... I jsut wanted to pipe in my .02 cents. This is a great idea for the technical side of the Fant .....

    I'm a relatively new Fant owner, from last year .... I have a 94 e900 which I'm going to be working on at some point this year. Right now I'm finishing up on my 96 steamer. As I upgrade my bike, including a custom paint job that I'm spec-ing out :evil , I'll be sure to post pics.

    Motobeuno - I see yer in my neck of the woods, per se. I'm in Eugene, where abouts are you and your wife located at? The three of us should hook up and ride sometime ...... :D It's also good to know someone "local" that has done work to their bike already ..... I'm sure I'll be tapping your brain, as well as others on this thread, in the future.

    Anyhow, here's a pic of what my Fant currently looks like.

    Take it easy everyone and ride safe! :1drink

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  19. Durangoman

    Durangoman Yeah its me!

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    I just installed a set a few weeks ago. There was a little tweeking AND I had to turn down the engine mount spacers.

    Online instructions here.


    H&B luggage racks for the Fant are pure hell. I had to go online and find a german translator, still it sucked.
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  20. Durangoman

    Durangoman Yeah its me!

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    Anyone ever disconnect the little Calif vent thingie off the top of the tank?

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    Any issues? Just remove and plug?
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