Elefant Technical Thread

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by motomikedh, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. Mikezilla

    Mikezilla Big in Japan

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    Holy crap, just looked at em, WHY THE HELL would you drill and plug all those holes? Still probably more reasonable to fix than a shattered one if you dumped it or something I would assume.
  2. falcn

    falcn Squidless Soul

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    New chain slider ordered in from Europe arrived today. It beat the bike here (which is coming from CA). This is the OEM material so I can see why they wear out now. Might take some measurements for making my own out of Delrin before I stick it on the bike.
  3. Mikezilla

    Mikezilla Big in Japan

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    Where did you order it from? and how much?
  4. Bevelhead

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    Someone with a 3-D printer could make a few bucks building those chain sliders. Heck, it wouldn't take too many to justify the purchase of one.
  5. falcn

    falcn Squidless Soul

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    falcn Squidless Soul

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  7. donaldlav

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    Dewey,
    I have NOS unsed chain sliders for both the E900 and the Gran Canyon that I could supply. The demand is there for both models, if you are willing. I may be pushing my luck here but I can supply both items for a template. Let me know where to send it and if you are up for creating the Gran Canyon slider in addition to the Elefant's slider.

    Donald LaVigne

  8. Chadleys1

    Chadleys1 working on it

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    Yes, I hope this works out.
    I ended up ordering one for 147 bucks from http://www.oemmotorparts.com/

    I hope to order a spare from y'all once you get it ironed out.
    Thanks,
    -CLC
  9. donaldlav

    donaldlav Adventurer

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    Dewey,
    Don't know if I have missed your reply but I am waiting to hear back from you regarding where to send the Elefant and possibly the Gran Canyon chain slider. Please feel free to contact directly via email or cell phone:
    donaldlav@yahoo.com 706-627-7060.
    Regards, Donald L.

  10. c-m

    c-m Been here awhile

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    Saw an Elephant for recently, but I was put off by the reliability I've read about.

    Coming from an Italian V-twin at the moment, I want something that's going to be rock solid day in day out.

    Are they really as prone to problems as some people make out?
  11. marcuss

    marcuss Mahout

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    Hi! I was just wondering if any of you know gauge and length of the spokes in the 19" front wheel fitted to the e900 (from 96). I know I could just measure one of the other spokes, but my dear elefant is in winter hibernation?

    Also, a good place to buy one online?
  12. Bill the Bong

    Bill the Bong Supern00ba

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    I bought a whole spoke set for the rear wheel from Buchanan spokes...
  13. ceevu

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    Ouu yes they are,where is it for sale:lol3
    It has to be old bike now,so if you want rock solid reliability,go to shop and by some new yamaha or something.
    I cant blame my elefant reliability,considering its age. Broken parts are ignition pickups,and almost all wires that move with handle bar.since its over 20y old,i think its pretty good,but owning old bike has to be state of mind,some just dont get it,and some cant think buying new one.
    Of course bike this age needs some new bearings,etc but dont they all do?
    some parts are harder to find,or more expensive,but if you have italian v-twin already you know that.
    (btw,i broke second gear,but it was sort of careless use...and replaced it with 10 year newer engine...Thats still 16 years old...)
    Its fun bike,and im sort of happy that these bikes aren't collectors items,because when they are relatively cheap they can be driven (hard too)and modified to suit owners taste.
  14. c-m

    c-m Been here awhile

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    There's one on ebay right now.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAGIVA-EL...5117718?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d0ae2cd96

    It's too far from me though (it's in Wales).

    I love the look, but I don't think an Elefant is for me. I don't mind something that needs a little love, but once the common issues are sorted I want something that's rock solid reliable.
  15. JohnG.

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    Which means it will fit certain old Guzzis,toyotas,BMW,small jap GM's,late Suzuki Swift etc.
    I never bought an eom filter...
  16. falcn

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    The stock charging system on all of the mid 90's Ducs was horrible.

    The 1994 E900 I just acquired this winter being no exception I knew I would be replacing the stock style regulator with a Shindengen MOSFET based model.

    I chose the FH020AA (one that is actually on the new MTS1200's) from www.motoelectrix.com - it came with the OEM connectors for the regulator in the kit - very nice.

    Charging at cold idle prior to the install: none, 12.8V to 13.0 V many times after the bike was warm and at idle the charge light would come on, even though the voltmeter showed 13.0+ volts (some say a sign the regulator is on the way out).

    The stator checked ok and the wires were still supple.

    I wired the FH020AA directly to the battery through the Maxi-fuse for the + side and direct to the battery for the rectifier ground.

    The OEM style regulator was connected to the starter relay cable from the battery, but at the starter relay - the rectifier wire gauge was probably 16 or 18! It also had a corroded ring terminal. The ground wire from the OEM style regulator was attached to the mounting bracket bolt. The bracket stub is painted and welded to the frame - not the best ground path back to the battery. I might have been able to wire the OEM style regulator direct to the battery too, but it is a shunt based rectifier and I wanted the modern MOSFET based rectifier on the bike. The FH020AA will shut off it it overheats and resume when cool enough. That probably will never happen as it runs cooler than the shunt based regulators.

    Here is the install - mounts on the same plate as original - just had to add a washer behind the left bolt as it went through an existing unthreaded hole.

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    The wires are 10 gauge running to the battery.

    Here is the charging performance at 1000 rpm cold idle:

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    When warm she idles at 1500 typically, and when I held 1500 I had 14.5 Volts showing on the Voltmeter.

    The only con, the charge light on the dash is non-functional after this, but no big deal, I have a voltmeter installed in the dash.
  17. falcn

    falcn Squidless Soul

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    Thanks for posting this!!

    I got the right side mostly installed today. Cant get the rear mount behind the Staintune to line up tight, had to use a spacers - probably going to have to bend the U piece to get it to fit. It is nice and level though. I left off my bent passenger peg - maybe I will refit if I get a straight one (came this way from PO).

    Next up - the left side!
  18. Wyvern

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    I had My 94 on the market ... didn't sell and I am not going to take some crazy low offer for it .
    SO ... I really do love the bike and will now strip and rebuild as a "Lucky Strike" Dakar replica .
    I have found some info but if any of you know of additional info resource any links, PMs, info, would be appreciated
  19. falcn

    falcn Squidless Soul

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    I take it you know about www.elefantadventurebikes.com?
  20. falcn

    falcn Squidless Soul

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    Welllll....

    Now I know what you meant about the left side bracket...that arms bend goes way too high to let the seat fit. :/

    Don't know if I want to bend the crap out of it myself or cut it off and weld it back better.