Emig Racing clamps and stabilizer

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by S Won, Feb 28, 2006.

  1. Surly

    Surly surly adventurer

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    I'll take them if I can buy the bike they're attached to(seriously). Beautiful GO!!!!!! man. Really, really nice.
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  3. S Won

    S Won Been here awhile

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    Thanks cmw! The bike is really dirty right now. I live on a 1.1 mile gravel road, so it's hard to keep it clean. The big KTM doesn't look bad dirty though and that helps. The Emig install is almost complete. I searched all over town for the DOT 5.1 brake fluid that I needed for the brakes. The local KTM dealer had it, but for some reason I drove around to all of the auto parts stores first.

    I got some more ebay bling for the 950 today. A very large 113-liter blue OGIO motocross bag that I'll use on the toprack for touring. I thought it came with a raincover, but it didn't. The bottom is completely waterproof and it has a rigid panel to keep it flat. The raincover cover should be easy to get. I think it will fit my Touratech toprack just fine. The bigger Touratech rack and the hardbags should keep it off the mufflers but I'll need to watch it. The bag has a rollout mud flap to change boots on (shown in the second picture), a built-in helmet bag (for my off-road helmet), an off-road boot compartment, a goggle compartment, a tool gutter located on the bottom of the bag, daisy chains, a strap and some other cool features. What a deal at $65. I also got a 35-liter OGIO gym bag/overnight bag that will easily go in the bigger bags and hold personal items on trips. These along with my other OGIO bags, computer case, and Hydration unit should keep me happy for awhile. Good stuff, not expensive and functional. The big bag will hold my tent, sleeping bags, a folding chair, an extra helmet, boots and even more quite easily.

    Wow, now I need to go somewhere!

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  4. S Won

    S Won Been here awhile

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    Well, I finally finished up my bike. I'm running a little late but the weather was crappy and I was busy with work. The weather has cleared somewhat and the bike is on the road!

    Unbelievable! Is the word that first comes to mind! The bike handles much, MUCH better! One hand on the bars at any time and at any speed is doable. It wasn't before! Even stock. After lowering my S to fit me better, I had a slow speed wobble. As you may have read in this thread or in another, I had Factory Connection rebuild and lower my forks 1". I had raised the forks in the trees initially lower the bike. FC lowered the forks 1" so, it's higher now than it was when the forks were raised. Now, my bike is just 1" lower in the front, than a stock 950 Adventure S. Factory Connection also swapped in .50kg springs for my stock S springs. The Emig clamps are the main reason the bike handles better but the FC springs complete the total effect. The bike is still high, but I have also just purchased a new 'Gel' seat, so it's very managable for me. I can almost flat-foot the bike now! The new seat needs glued and stapled, because I just swapped my orange S cover onto it. I'm very happy with all of the modifications.

    Ok, back to the handling. The Emig 20mm offset clamps are very nice. They add a great deal of stability to the bike just as Gary Emig told me they would. The ER Revolution II steering stabilzer is awesome. I keep it on 5 for regular street duty. Because of the heavier fork springs the front feels very solid in all situations now. Before the modifications the forks would bounce and the front felt loose to me. Like it would washout easily. It felt like this even at slow speed! I now, seriously believe the stock springs are just too soft. Of course, for off-road use they may be perfect. It's all a compromise but... I use it mostly on the street and gravel roads, for now! We'll see what happens later. I know one thing! She's totally opposite from stock and I like it this way! I took a short 70 mile trip on Tuesday and then came back today. Excellent twisties on Rt. 7 from Pentress, WV to New Martinsville, WV and I then did a little 4-lane highway up Rt. 2 to Moundsville. The bike is solid and planted firmly now.

    It looks killer too! I'll post pictures as soon as I can.

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  5. S Won

    S Won Been here awhile

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    Ok, if anyone cares to see it, here are a couple pictures of my Factory Connection newly suspended 2005.5 950 S. It has Emig Racing clamps and steering stablizer, Akrapovic mufflers, folding mirrors, Symtec heated grips and a few other modifications. The bike also has orange Factory Connection/WP Racing protective fork stickers, Supermoto axle sliders, rear KTM race bobbins, Superbike gel grips (highly recommended over stock grips), and a new KTM radiator cover. My next mod may be Red Bull stickers. I'm considering them after seeing Trident's bike! See bottom picture!

    I thought someone may want to see it. Even though she's very dirty!

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  6. SST

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    Looks very nice S Won.:evil You are getting that bike dialed.:clap
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  7. slide

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    Nice and similar to my setup. I also have 17" wheelset for supermoto riding.

    Now that you 're all dressed up where are you planning on going?
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  8. S Won

    S Won Been here awhile

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    All dressed up and no place to go!

    Well, I don't have any big trips planned or anything like that. I mostly just ride the bike locally here in the West Virginia twisties. This is one of the best riding areas on the East Coast. People ride from all over to come to West Virginia to ride. It's just outside my door so, I'm already here. I would like to take it up the ALCAN Hwy, one of these days before I get too old. The 950 is great for commuting which is what I usually do with it. I live on a 1.1 mile dirt road, so I needed something with more dirt capability. The road was beating the living crap out of my other bikes, mostly Buells. The 950 is much better for this type of riding and it doesn't look bad dirty, which it is most of the time. All I did with the Buells is clean them.

    On May 18th, I'll be meeting up with a couple of AdvRiders from Indiana. I'm going to show them some of the sites here in WV. We plan to hit Spruce Knob, Seneca Rocks and Smoke Hole. After that we'll hit the twisties up Rt.50 through Cool Springs, WV. Me and a few buddies are also planning the 1st Annual Six State Border to Border Run sometime in May or June. We'll leave at dawn and hit all 5 states bordering WV and then hopefully make it back from where we started before dark. Some say it can't be done. Nobody has ever tried! I'm also planning a trip to Niagra Falls sometime this year.

    So, as you can see, I have nothing like a big trip to Baja planned but being on the East Coast limits the possibilities of Baja. At least for me!

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  9. Mouse

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  10. YOGOI

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    :rofl I was wait'n for someone to burst S Won's bubble, I didnt want to do it becouse I already teased him about lowering his ''S" model. Sorry, I was happy that you were happy with it, but now you know the truth. Its ok, just say "it feels better with the new off set".
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  11. Mouse

    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    bloody hell, you can't be an aussie then eh? Gotta tease 'em every opportunity you get cause the buggers might get a march on you... but i agree, it was fun while it lasted! :evil
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  12. S Won

    S Won Been here awhile

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    No, bubble bursting here! I like it better! The bike handles better, because the low speed wobble is gone. Just like Gary Emig said it would be! He actually told me, that I wouldn't need to lower the bike and I could keep the forks raised up in the trees. I was going to replace the front springs anyway, and the lowering was just $25, so I did it! The offset increases the rake which also increases the trail. It makes the bike more stable because of the increased trail. The bike does not turn in as fast as it did stock. That's a given. It's also limited by the 21" wheel and dualsport tires.

    Sure, I lowered the bike. I'm of just average height 5' 10". I'm glad I'm not a freak of nature like some of you guys. I can find normal sized shoes and clothes wherever I go! My brother in law is 6' 3" and has a size 15 shoe. You don't want to have that problem.

    I know the bike is better overall! The steering stabilizer makes handling on the street much better. I usually have it set on just 5. When I hit gravel or dirt I turn it up to 13. Overall, the bike is very stable and it still turns in nice. Before the mods the bike wallowed in the turns. It felt light in the front and as though the front could washout at anytime. It bounced so badly on uneven pavement, that I had to keep my speed down in the turns.

    It was worth every penny of the $950 I paid for the Emig Racing parts! I would never go back to the way it was. In fact, I'm selling the stock 950 parts! As for the lowering. It's much better than before but it's only 1" lower than it was stock. The Eibach spring on the rear WP shock is also much better than the stock spring. I sold that spring to one of the non-S owners here that S-ed is bike. My front S springs are on eBay right now. They are the last of my S parts. Factory Connection did a wonderful job and knew exactly what I needed even if I didn't. I told them I wanted .52kg springs in the forks. They put in .50kg springs and they were right. It's perfect now! I have $1650 in the Factory Connection front & rear suspensions and the Emig trees & steering stabilizer. I'm very happy with spending that money, where I did. The bike fits me better and handles better. Don't knock it until you try it!

    S Won
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  13. Mouse

    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    methinks, swon, you didn't happen to read the thread mentioned now did you?

    Your first paragraph merely reiterates what you've said before which decidedly contradicts a lot of experts (and I'm not one btw).

    Please take five minutes and read and comprehend the referred thread and understand what you've done to your bike.

    I also have the emig setup and its first rate.
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  14. S Won

    S Won Been here awhile

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    Yes, I read it!

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    Here is what Emig says.
    Note that he says nothing about the bike being less or more stable.



    Sorry S WON, but you have it backwords.


    I did it all a year ago. I have the 20mm off set and Emig stablizer, and .50 springs from Precision Concepts.
    Our bikes are about the same, except yours is about 2'' lower than mine. And Bob Bell puts a little magic into the new forks too.
    I'm 5'11, so your not far from being a "Freak of Nature".

    It is a good set up, and however it works, is seems to work real well.
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  16. Mouse

    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    you can take a babe by the hand and lead them through the woods but does that mean they will learn anything???

    I guess not in ths case...
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  17. Speedzter

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    I've fitted a Rev' II Emig damper, and it appears to have a " dead" spot, as if something is loose internally . For example, with the bars straight ahead, you can move the bars about 1 1/2 inches before you can feel the damping .
    I would expect the damping to be present all the time
    Just thought I would ask if this is normal before I email Emig .
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    Just sent mine back today because it leaks :cry
    Will check next week when I get it back and let you know if no one does by then
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    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    pm'ed you speedzter...
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  20. S Won

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    I re-read the thread and yes, I believe I had it backwards. I was only reporting what Gary told me but perhaps I was confused with his explaination. It happens! My understanding of it was that the bottom of the clamp kicked out the forks 2mm and increased the rake and trail. Apparently, that is not the case. I actually asked him about this and that's what he told me. Anyway, my bike was only lowered 1" in the front. The back however, was lowered a bit more than that. My headlight actually points skyward now. I rarely ride at night, you'll become a corpes doing that here, so it's not an issue for me! So, I believe overall I have changed the trail somewhat, and my bike has more trail, even with the 2mm offset change!

    As I said, the bike feels better (to me) and handles much better than stock. The wobble that I created by raising the forks is completely gone. One hand on the bars at any speed is now possible. It NEVER was possible before the changes, even stock! If it isn't as stable as it was before the 2mm change then the wobble should still be present. When I first did the trees, I had the forks raised and there was no wobble. Of course the forks were lowered 1" so maybe that made a difference. I have no idea, I am not an expert at any of this obviously! I rely on others and expect them to tell me the truth, when I question them about their parts. The more I deal with aftermarket companies, the more I find people are just trying to make a quick buck! I have a garage full of Harley/Buell parts because of someone trying to make a buck! "Sure our frame will work with your parts!" :huh Yeah, Right!

    My Revolution II stabilizer has NO dead spot whatsoever in it.

    S Won
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