End all be all adv & 2up bike

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Free-Dog, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. Free-Dog

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    The 1000 V Strom might be out of the running.... Do to wife not wanting a larger motor at the expense of fuel economy.

    I am very excited for this coming weekend when a deal might be finalized for a straight trade for a high mileage Wee Strom. The NADA values the Bandit more, might be due to the 1250 power plant :deal

    If anything happens I will alert the inmates that I would have joined the SUV of motorcycles with the strom, wish me luck in negotiating :freaky
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  2. professorkx

    professorkx Been here awhile

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    My wife rides with me 95% of the time on the 800xc. Almost 9000 miles since new with 6 months of riding. In fact, we rode 1000 miles over memorial weekend without a problem. Two sons also have the 800xc and ride their ladies about 90% of the time. The girls vary in size from my wife at just over 100 pounds to the largest at 5'8" and....well...let's just say she weighs more than my wife.

    We have logged hundreds of thousands of miles on Harleys and currently own 2 Harleys plus the 800XC, the most comfortable of which is the Harley Ultra. Last weekend, while on a dual sport ride, my wife ask if it made an sense to keep the Ultra any longer since the Tiger has become our primary bike. Shocked me she would even suggest such a thing, as she love the Ultra.

    For full disclosure, the passenger "pillow" isn't much to write home about, so my wife uses an airhawk and is fine. One of the other girls likes the airhawk as well, but the third one didn't care for an airhawk so they purchased a Sargent Seat that has a very well designed passenger pillow.

    We ride 50/50 dirt/street, and ride some pretty gnarly stuff, and the Tiger has never disappointed with it's ability to handle the outback with a passenger...
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  3. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    I would be tempted to get the seat and the pegs for the Bandito grande.
    That engine is something else and you will miss it sometimes if you get a S10 or a DL650

    Saving some money and waiting another year for the prices of the bikes that you are looking at to come down.

    Personally, I went the DL650 route, moving from a Harley FXDX to an 04 DL and from that DL to a Honda 919 and from that back to a DL only I got a 2012.

    However I don't ride two up, since the wife unit has her own bike.
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  4. Bolzen

    Bolzen Been here awhile

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    The second time on one day i have to praise the Versys Mil if that's available.

    You will miss little to nothing from the Bandit and get better ergos, protection, ground clearance, comfort for both rider and passenger and possibly economy. You have only to close your eyes when getting one :D, as if dreaming and then the dream will likely come true.

    Another option in terms of comfort and ride would be the NTX.
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  5. Free-Dog

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    First I want to thank each and everyone of you who has contributed to this thread.

    I made the decision yesterday and rode her home that evening to then start wrenching on it, I'll get to why it needed immediate wrenching....

    The decision was a hard one but in the end price played a larger factor than anything this was between an xc800 and a DL650. One dealer gave me a better trade in credit by a good bit and that beat it out..... Both bikes I rode were great solid machines yes the XC was a bit more fun but I have a love affair with that vtwin rumble...:D

    Ok l went with....... an older style DL650!!!! I got a great deal on it cause PO had lowered it and dealer didn't want to mess with it, which made the test ride crappy cause the wife and I couldn't ride it together due to rear wheel rubbing fender..... So I tested it by myself and over railroad tracks I was able to bottom it out....

    This lead me to believe the rear shock was gone and the lowering links had ruined the geometry and possibly something else. So first things first, work on rear shock and put tools in the hard luggage (the price included it :evil) to transport to MaddieDog's house for wrenching :freaky. Low and behold what did I find taped to the inside of one pannier????.... the original links!!!! :clap

    After removing the 2 bolts it was returned to stock height almost 4 more inches off the ground and 6in between rear wheel and inner fender well :clap. And after a bit of fiddling with the rear shock MaddieDog found the hard or soft settings at the bottom left side and preceded to tighten (towards the hard setting, while I was trying to free up the stuck preload knob.

    This made a dramatic difference from the very low, sloppy noodle of rear suspension Strom to the regular sized planted in corners VStrom :evil.

    And now I am posting this after day 2 of ownership cause I was busy working on my Strom until 2am and riding all day today, currently 275 miles into my love of it!!!

    Big shout out to MaddieDog for being a great friend and huge help, couldn't do it without ya!!! Plus being an awesome riding buddy, dude we have dirt bikes :freaky
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  6. Burninator

    Burninator Zed's dead

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    Having owned a Tiger and currently owning a V-Strom, I'd say you made a smart choice!
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  7. maddiedog

    maddiedog In dog we trust

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    Always down for a good time. :evil

    Freedog and his new ride:
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    In its natural habitat:
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  8. MariusD

    MariusD Been here awhile

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    Nice! Congrats on the new strom and welcome to the club. :freaky

    You guys should bring a tow rope next time u go offroading like that. That vstrom might get stuck :lol3
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  9. Norty01

    Norty01 RIDERCOACH

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    Since riding 2-up is like driving a fun car with a trailer bolted to the back, what are the chances of your wife learning to ride her own bike?
    Believe me, this could open up a whole new world to you (and her.)
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  10. Free-Dog

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    I have that Buell for just that momentous moment but I doubt this will happen anytime soon.... Though I am very hopeful!!! :freaky
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  11. Free-Dog

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    MaddieDog!!!! Thank you for posting the pics they are great!!! And I did the salute on the very first ride....:eek1:deal
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  12. cycleman2

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    Good choice. I just finished a 2500 mile trip with my 2013 DL650 adv with the 3 bags, 2 up. The bike was loaded and I stopped at a truck scale and weighed the bike with both of us and all our gear, full tank of gas. It weighted 470 kilograms or 1034 lbs. Seeing as the Gross Vehicle Weight is supposed to be around 415 kilograms or 913 lbs we were seriously overloaded.

    The only place I really noticed the weight was when you first took off, but once the bike was rolling it was a none issue. Pulled in 5 and 6th gear ( depending on grade ) at elevations between 5 & 6 thousand feet. Roll on passing in 6 gear on 2 lanes with no problems.

    With this bike if you are working it, like I was, you want to keep the bike in the 5k rpm range. It pulls like crazy in this range and has no problems with accelerating. But it is still a 650. So if you are basically a speed limit plus 10 % this bike is fine. If you want more initial grunt or travel a lot 2up on the interstate than the DL1000 would be a better choice.

    The mods that I did to the bike was different tires - Anakee 3's, heavier rear spring on the stock shock, fork brace and pegs lowered, corbin seat.

    The bike for what it is is amazing. Passenger liked the ride and the seat and had no complaints.
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  13. AGrant

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    Nice! :rofl
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  14. MotoAddiction

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    I have Tiger 800XC did a two up on highway, at 80mph, I think the tech needle was like slightly above halfway point. I'm still a noob, but I think that's plenty. Half the time I have to check the mirror to see if my wife was still back there. I can't even imagine how it is with bigger bikes.
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  15. bluesman

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    Same here - I had plenty of bikes before, on Tiger I was hitting 200 kmph on way to meet in Germany with wife and luggage. I only stopped this stupidity when I was refueling and looked at rear tire. Which was already on way out, but after 200 kmph (that's 125 mph, right? Or something like it...)run with passenger...oh My...
    Did not feel different than my old VTR1000 with passenger. May be even easier.
    My friend regularly rides his old DL650 I modified for him (wire wheels) with passenger no probs in any conditions. I tried it too - not a problem.
    Bikes almost always more capable than we.
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  16. dflow

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    I'm sure it has been discussed here and elsewhere, why didn't Suzuki bump the displacement of the DL650 when they refreshed things for 2012? Come to think of it I'm surprised the DL1000 didn't get a bump as well.
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  17. Pecha72

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    and they should do it, cos bigger is always better, right??

    The 1k actually was bumped, but only about 40cc (to 1037cc).
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  18. dflow

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    Actually the "bigger is better" philosophy is not one that I subscribe to and more so now than ever before. My point is meant to better align the DLs with competitive offerings in the 700-800cc and 1100-1200cc categories. And then there is the fact that almost every discussion regarding the DL650 ends up with it's limitations in power. Personally I would use one for one-up riding probably 99% of the time and so I wouldn't want to forfeit economy for HP unless it was at a small sacrifice. The DL650 is high on my list of future rides.
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  19. danketchpel

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    I'm assuming you're referring to the big Versys. I wish we had that option here. For the life of me I can't figure out why Kawi didn't bring that bike to the States. I understand the fugly factor, but it's an interesting option not currently available here, ie inline 4 cyl. I think it could make sense for many buyers as a long distance bike. Not everybody wants a full dress touring bike and the big Versys seems like a UJM that's comfy and ready for the open road.
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  20. Denalidirt

    Denalidirt High Plains Drifter

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    Plenty of power. Plenty of space. Reliable. Great mpg. Cheap. Boring.
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