Ever owned a motorcycle business?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by nomad_games, Feb 19, 2014.

  1. Bultaco206

    Bultaco206 Back-to-back motos suck

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,956
    Location:
    Mineral Point, WI
    Yeah, I don't miss the dealership days at all. I've been the aftermarket distribution game now at the corporate level for several years now. It's better overall as I don't have to deal with the public much. But whiny dealers aren't much better some days.
    #61
  2. nomad_games

    nomad_games Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,867
    Location:
    USA
    Ironic timing on those comments, as i was reminded tonight that turning art into a job made me hate art. I really fucking love motorcycles, and i would very much like to not have the same thing happen with them. But, as i mentioned a week or so ago in this thread, ive pretty much already decided not to do that. I did pick up a wrenching apprenticeship, but i dont plan on turning it into a career. Just a side thing for fun.
    #62
  3. nomad_games

    nomad_games Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,867
    Location:
    USA
    Kind of a sideways tangent, but which Tuono? Ive been eyeing one of those for a long time.
    #63
  4. anotherguy

    anotherguy unsympathetic

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2009
    Oddometer:
    9,077
    Location:
    the hills
    2004 first generation. 105K miles or so and hasn't even needed a valve adjustment. Hadn't been started in weeks and it turned over twice,fired up sat and idled yesterday. You can buy them low mileage cheap and ride for years. You won't regret it even if the wife leaves you because of it. Being in the business I get to ride everything and it's the best all rounder ever.
    #64
  5. Phil in K.C.

    Phil in K.C. Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2008
    Oddometer:
    566
    Location:
    just outta town
    spaced ghost wrote
    "As I alluded to before, I've decided to go back to school to be an engineer/designer"

    If you do become and engineer please be a good one...Having worked in the Tool and Die/Model Maker trade for 35 years I have work with some great ones...and some very, very bad ones. It seems that a lot of kids take an apt. test that says "hey you can be and eng." and mommy and daddy send them to school....just because they went to school does NOT make them and engineer. Good luck with your studies.... design us something cool.
    #65
  6. SgtDuster

    SgtDuster Long timer

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2010
    Oddometer:
    3,767
    Location:
    Province of Quebec!
    The best advice so far.
    #66
  7. nomad_games

    nomad_games Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,867
    Location:
    USA
    1st, I'm not a kid, I'm 36. 2nd, I come from a poor family, and havent received a penny from them since I left home at 17. I put myself through school, working FT while going to school FT. 3rd, I've never done anything that I didn't quickly become one of the best at, and I don't plan on changing that. But thanks for the advice.
    #67
  8. nomad_games

    nomad_games Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,867
    Location:
    USA
    Awesome. Thats good to know.
    #68
  9. Phil in K.C.

    Phil in K.C. Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2008
    Oddometer:
    566
    Location:
    just outta town

    I meant no disrespect. You being 36, in my opinion , is a great time to make this move. You have had time to see things in a way what we call in my trade,"fresh outs", can not see'. Those who have the book learning , but no real world experience....and they know it all...trying to reinvent the wheel on a daily basis. Take your knowledge and world experience, add what can be learned in Eng. school and make a difference.....you design it and my ilk will help you build it. Technology changes daily, but a bolt still goes in a threaded hole....enjoy the ride. You can do this.

    Phil
    #69
  10. nomad_games

    nomad_games Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,867
    Location:
    USA
    Thanks. I went to school with rich kids and spent a couple years teaching them, I understand.
    #70
  11. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Oddometer:
    11,400
    Location:
    Delaware Ohio

    After working in sales of vehicles and having done some accessorizing as well as my own work on my bikes, then going into Mechanical Engineering, I came to the conclusion there should be a required course "Stupidity in Engineering". It would highlight all those cases where 1/8" more space would allow a part to come out without the present requirement to tear half the vehicle apart to get to it. Other cases of just plain foolish design work. I've seen time and time again where some simple alteration in the design would work wonders, but it is not done.
    #71
  12. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Oddometer:
    11,400
    Location:
    Delaware Ohio
    Now for all those against it, why is it we should have nationalized health care like the rest of the world?

    Sure would make it a lot easier to do something one really wants to do, without the worry of what happens in catastrophic sickness or injury.
    #72
  13. Tanshanomi

    Tanshanomi Your Favorite Uncle

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,303
    Location:
    Heart of America
    I've been doing document production for 10 years. For the first five years it was relatively fun and interesting. The last five years have been increasingly boring and repetitive. I used to love what I do.
    #73
  14. dirtyac

    dirtyac Ktooner

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2010
    Oddometer:
    36
    Location:
    Melrose,NY
    One of my best friends owned a KTM dealership for 24 years and I worked for him for 19 of those 24. The tough thing for him was he couldn't say no to anyone....so his plate was always to full. That always hurt him. Buried all the time. Sounds like a good problem to have....Not! The business RAN him. He never lost his passion for motorcycles though. We lost him last year to cancer. Sure miss him.
    #74
  15. nomad_games

    nomad_games Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,867
    Location:
    USA
    welp, despite all the advice in this thread to the contrary, I decided to take a step in this direction. going down to part time at my job as Project Manager/Designer/CAD drafter at an architectural metal fabrication company, and will now also be working part time at a vintage moto shop as a mechanic and designer/drafter/operator for custom parts with the CNC milling machine. seems like a good group of guys, pay is way better than I expected for mechanic work. At the very least, hopefully it will give me an idea of whether or not I want to pursue this.

    wish me luck.
    #75
  16. dwayne

    dwayne Silly Adventurer

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    Oddometer:
    4,361
    Location:
    wheelie in purgatory, Calgary
    maybe there is a business model in the education side of fabrication...working for yourself?
    #76
  17. anotherguy

    anotherguy unsympathetic

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2009
    Oddometer:
    9,077
    Location:
    the hills
    Good luck.


    I am trying to decide what to do. I'm in the middle of opening a new shop with a couple associates. I just got off the phone with an irate customer who yelled at me,called me names and cussed me. All because he went against my advice and bought a cheap transmission. It whines bad on deceleration. And apparently after some mileage it leaks as well.

    And all this while I'm home 130 miles away trying to recover from a tough week.

    People crying about money. Whining about time spent waiting for parts. Time spent doing a good job. And these aren't customers. They're the guys I'm working (helping out) with.

    I do believe it's time to do something else. I think the only bikes I'll be working on have my name on the title. Being a nice guy and trying to help people has become a burden,one which I'm about to shed. Yep I do believe I've made up my mind.

    And again good luck.
    #77
  18. nomad_games

    nomad_games Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,867
    Location:
    USA

    I've thought that this was the solution for quite some time. probably time to do something about it.
    #78
  19. JustRon

    JustRon ex-broadwayron

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Oddometer:
    1,431
    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Is that in Brooklyn? Sounds good.
    #79
  20. nomad_games

    nomad_games Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2013
    Oddometer:
    1,867
    Location:
    USA
    Yup. Brooklyn. Williamsburg/Greenpoint border.
    #80