Evil scooter plans for my nephew...

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Discojon75, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. villageidiot

    villageidiot Long timer

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    As someone who is motivated and has worked from 14 til now, 29 with only 10 months off (shut down my automotive shop due to the economy) I can say, this is THE BEST thing you can do.

    When I was 17, fresh outta high school, in junior college, working 3 jobs, 2 part time, one full time, I was stuck in a rut feeling like nothing was going anywhere, cuz it wasn't.

    Bus his ass down to you, show him how to maintain, change a flat, etc. Then make him SHOW you how to do it. And repeat til he has it right. Msf course, and hit the road.

    Say see ya, far enough away from home to make him have to work at getting home on the 500 bucks. That way he learns good spending habits etc.

    For me to get motivated, it took me getting sober and meeting my wife. I was 18 yrs old, and glad it came at the right time. I've sinced, bought a house, ran my own business, got married to her, lost my business, and coincedentally lost my house too. But I still go to work everyday, and am thankful that things are on the mend for us financially.

    Go for it. You're talkin maybe 4 grand total, in the grand scheme of life the money doesn't fucking matter, but the life lesson, could change the dudes world.
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  2. Discojon75

    Discojon75 Been here awhile

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    Dependability is a big thing. I'm leaning towards a Honda Reflex, an SH150i, or a Big Ruckus if I can find one.
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  3. ABritOnMaui

    ABritOnMaui Been here awhile

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    Theft is also a possible issue, the reflex is probably the best out of three on that score. I know round these parts ruckus's and dual sports are very hard to hang on to. Non plated 50's are also attractive for obvious reasons.

    Have you had a look at salvage bikes? it depends if your state allows you to return them to the road yourself, but it can be worth a look. Plenty of them have little more than bodywork / pegs / levers and lights to fix. Hell you can even remove the bodywork in some cases. As long as it wasn't lft running on its side it can be a cheap way to get a decent machine.
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  4. Discojon75

    Discojon75 Been here awhile

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    I'm looking at Craiglist adds for Reflex scooters... man, great prices.
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  5. bbishoppcm

    bbishoppcm It ain't a moped.

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    I've seen scenarios like yours go either way; my own father was headed down the wrong path... it took harsh reality, a pregnant girlfriend at age 19 (my mom), and some strong advice from a few older men to set him straight. He managed to marry his girlfriend (my mom), raised me and my sister, became a successful auto mechanic among other careers, quit drinking and using other substances, owns a house, and a small business. I've also seen these situations go the other way; it all depends on the individual, and their own motivation. Military is a great opportunity; I joined the USAF after realizing I didn't know what I wanted to make of my life. I injured my ankle in BASIC, and left after a few months; but I managed to muddle through until I landed a decent job. I think the best thing you can do for him is to spend some quality time with him, and put him to work; give him advice on repairing the scooter, then see what he does; if he realizes he can ride home on this thing only if he puts forth the effort, it might start the ball rolling and give him some motivation and drive. Good luck! It sounds like you're one hell of an uncle.

    My uncle gave me my first car; a 1987 Volkswagen GTI. It was up to me to make it road-worthy; it took three years, and cost me EVER PENNY I was able to make through high school, but I rebuilt that car from the ground up using my own two hands and determination. I used skills I learned from my dad.

    If I had a kid (son or daughter) of my own, I'd do to them what my uncle and father did to me; "You want a car? Here you go; the tools are in the shed, please keep the noise down past 8:00. Call me if you need help."
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  6. windburn

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    My nephew came to the family reunion kicking and screaming. He didn't want to be there, he was 17. I could see the problem and ask him if he wanted to ride my trail 90. He is a moose in size but his eyes lit up. I show him the basics. And gave him a course to ride on dirt and gravel. He came back and I said do it again. He came back and I gave him a new course and told him to ride out and come back he did. I had him do it again. While I waited his parent came expressing concern that he was irresponsible. I told them he's been very responsible with me. I had ridden these trail and I know how long they took to ride. He was spot on. I explain that he was a misfit at the reunion and I'm going to make him a perfect fit. I was hugged and left at it. When he return I said. Take it for an hour and go on any trail you want. If you get lost ask for direction and solve it yourself. Don't run out of gas. Have a good time. He did.

    This young litter coming along is our responsibility.
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  7. DandyDoug

    DandyDoug Been here awhile

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    Ok , I get it he is family and all that kumbya crap.

    If you do this and he has not shown major improvements as a potential help to society by the time you get to CO.
    Do him , us and the rest of the world a favor. Thrown the punk off a cliff and let the wolves at least get a meal out of the deal.

    I have two nephews who are a lot like this waste of humanity. I told my brother to ship them one a time to me and i would fix the problem one way or another.
    He is currently not returning my phone calls :rofl
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  8. cbolling

    cbolling Here...Hold my Beer.

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    You sound like a pretty cool uncle to me.
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  9. DandyDoug

    DandyDoug Been here awhile

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    Rule # 1

    No Slackers !!

    First step in a better world .
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  10. Domromer

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    Sounds like a cool idea. For touring around on the cheap I'd say a Honda helix.
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  11. bbishoppcm

    bbishoppcm It ain't a moped.

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    DandyDoug, I disagree with you 100%. This kid needs direction, just like we all did at some point in our lives. Sure, some kids really are degenerate useless beings who exist solely to consume oxygen and calories... but this kid is too young to be a complete "write-off" to society. I personally know MANY people who were in the same shoes as this kid, and they completely turned their lives around by age 25, becoming productive members of society. I would suggest this kid join the military; he's young enough, and if he hasn't built up a criminal record, he'd make it in just fine.
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  12. DandyDoug

    DandyDoug Been here awhile

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    The younger kid is 25 , way over weight, has always had everything handed to him because someone told him he had a learning disability when he was younger. He does have hearing problem, and needs to wear hearing aids ( which he steadfastly refuses to do). He has absolutely no ambition, his dad got him several jobs that lasted about a day or so, then he just stopped going. Waste of the human gene pool.

    His older brother was convicted of some lame assed crap as a teenager, got tried and sent away. Did such a fine job as a prisoner he managed to stretch it out to 15 years. Real genius he is, could not even be bothered to get a free GED .
    He got out , moved back home and sat on his ass and stayed either high or drunk. Got in a fight with his dad , got shown the door. We managed to get him in to a training program. To learn a trade, that lasted a couple months.
    Yep, he is a credit to manhood that boy is.

    The military won't even give either one the time of day , why should they.
    I figure it's only a matter of time before one or both of these fine citizens show up on the evening news.

    By the way , they have a younger sister, she is in college and doing very well inspite of the home environment she was raised in.

    If you are looking for a project as a social do gooder, I'd be happy to put you in contact with the dynamic duo :rofl
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  13. redhandmoto

    redhandmoto Been here awhile

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    Eh, we do these things, we try them: sometimes they work and sometimes they don't, but we try because we may recognize a little of our youthful clueless selves, or maybe we feel that you can't just walk away when a little direction and guidance may help.

    My own misgivings notwithstanding, i wish the OP every success; hope that the kid catches fire with enthusiam, hope that he gets a little motivation and starts developing a little traction, hope that they both have fun.
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  14. bbishoppcm

    bbishoppcm It ain't a moped.

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    Alright, so those kids are an example of "useless scumbags." It happens.
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  15. Domromer

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    I think we ought to cut the kids some slack he's in his early twenties. He has the rest of his life to worry about bills and other adult bs. If the op wants to be the catalyst for this kids adventure than so be it.
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  16. larrylarry75

    larrylarry75 Aye Chihuahua

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    You guys will probably appreciate this. Back in the 60's there were tons of communes being set up, mostly by hippy types or people who were just wanting to drop out. The communes lasted for awhile, then fell apart. One of the groups who studies phenomena published a report on their findings as to why the communes broke up. Seems the people could agree on just about everything they encountered; politics, religion, love, lust, money, you name it, all things except for one and that was the main reason for their failures: They couldn't agree on how to raise children. Take a look back through this thread and guess what? Nothing's changed has it?

    LL75 :evil
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  17. SPOFF

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    In my new minimum wage life I run into a lot of unmotivated youth. Good thing, or 55 year olds like me would never be able to find two jobs to survive. But I do grow tired of working 18-hour double shifts on my feet because a cook only will show up one out of four shifts he's scheduled.

    Personally I'd stop feeding the nephew. If I can walk to work, so can he. And another life tip for him: Dumpsters behind restaurants contain tons of food.
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  18. Brooktown Geezer

    Brooktown Geezer scooter guy

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    Any update on this? Just wondering if the ride ever took place, and how things worked out?
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  19. Jim Moore

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    I gave both my nephews cars and tool kits when they were in high school. They were junkers, but they ran. They were both destroyed within a year due to lack of preventative maintenance. They learned their lessons though. They had to buy cars with their own money, and now they're some preventative-maintnenance-doin' mofos.

    OP, if I'd do it he's a good, cheerful, pleasant-mannered kid. I'd skip it if he's a wanker.
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  20. scottro

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    I say if you like the kid, do it. I think I'd go with bigger bikes tho. Maybe '70s--80's era 400--450 twins. They're still pretty cheap and plentiful, aren't too big, are simple to wrench on, and have enough power to get you around the mountain states and keep up w/ traffic. Nothing against scooters at all, I just wouldn't want to be chugging up a high altitude pass on a 250 or smaller w/ a semi on my a$$. A 250's gonna feel and move like a 125 at altitude, and a 125 is gonna feel like a 70.

    Also, I' recommend getting memberships in American Youth Hostels and stay in hostels instead of hotels/motels. The kid will meet a lot of people from all over the world who are up for adventure and travel, AND have saved to pay their own way, or are working their way around the world. Developing a network of friends from all over makes future travel a lot easier and a lot more fun. Maybe something or someone he meets will inspire him. He can also plan his solo route home thru towns with hostels.
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