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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Iranian, Sep 20, 2013.
I like my Evo, but it's the only Harley I've ever owned. That is all.
Great post for my morning coffee.
Totally agree on the need for a Harley forum. Suggested it years ago when they started the *gasp* scooter forum but the request fell on deaf ears. I hope this changes as more people here seek info about them. Sure there are plenty of HD forums on the Web, but Advrider attracts much more cosmopolitan, open-minded riders who have a solid grasp of grammar and spelling...
You looked in a catalog lately? Dennis Kirk? JP Cycles? Everything you need to rebuild a Shovelhead that's been out of production for 30 years. Everything you need for Evo too. I suspect it'll be that way for a long time to come.
Oh yes, ADV is very cosmopolitan:
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I'm fully aware that they are rebuildable. Parts for these engines are in both of those catalogs.
My POINT is that the newer technology (not just the engine, but the WHOLE DAMN BIKE) will be better appreciated by the consumer.
Case in point, I had to have an FXR. So, I bought a 94, which left me stranded twice. Both times for electrical issues. A newer bike would have a better chance of this type of shit not happening. Needless to day, I traded it in for a Victory.
Bikes make it down the road on more than just the motor.
I would settle for the anti-Harley crowd just showing a little civility. Every time there is a thread that involves Harleys, the same crowd shows up making the same comments. Then when you call them on it, they say that you don't have a sense of humor and need to lighten up.
How about just showing a little respect for other forum members? I've said this many times, there are bikes I don't like, but I don't go on every thread about them and piss and moan. I ignore them and don't try to ruin it for the people that like them. Just be adults about this and follow the rules:
"Furthermore, we have had it with the mocking dickery that happens in certain brand X threads that pop up in RW. Back in the old days when there were a few hundred inmates, taking jabs in jest was part of the fun of being on here, but as we have grown and grown and grown, the little village is now a mega city and we need to keep things under control or else every forum becomes a mini Jo Momma. Bashing and mocking might be fun for those who do it, but it isn't fun for the rest of the inmates who are trying to ask questions and reply to them, or are trying to help solve an issue with an inmate’s bike. We have made some changes in the Road Warriors forum to address this concern as we strive to improve the signal to noise ratio in this forum.
We would like to see brand X (whatever brand it may be, Harley, BMW, Victory, Ducati, etc..) owners or potential owners be able to ask their technical questions without being mocked at every turn. If you have the urge to mock riders for their choice of bike, head to JoMomma and let loose there. The pirate jokes, the snob jokes, the cruiser jokes the squid jokes… take them all to JoMomma."
Sorry for your trouble with that FXR Matt, one of my favorite motorcycles and I'll probably always have at least one... In the case of the shovels yes I'd agree, they can require more attention than the later models. In the case of the later year (89-2000) Evo's I don't really believe that's the case as compared to the twin cams. Sure, if the bike's been chopped up or modified electrics and mechanicals can be really a bastard to chase down and fix but a bone stock or close Evo from those years ought to be as reliable as anything out there. Anyway, ain't it great to have choices??
Oh for sure. I really did like that FXR, and I'd still have it if it hadn't pissed me off.
Nothing against Harley but I have a policy: If something leaves me stranded once I fix it and forgive it. Twice and it's out the door.
Believe it or not I had my 96 Sportster blow up on me TWICE (bad tuning on two different engine configurations) and both times it managed to get me home.
I've seen pleanty reports of run-out James Russel cannot possibly be onto anything right ?
More kool-aid sir ???
Thank you for what you do, Bueller. I first joined motorcycle forums around 2000. A guy named Preacher performed a similar function on my favorite forum, and that's what kept it healthy. Back then most of us were new to forums, so we behaved more or less like we would in person.
On one of the forums that was similarly moderated, a few of us started riding out to meet each other, and over the years we became good friends. We ride together a couple times a year, even though we live thousands of miles apart. We once rode three hard days just to spend two hours with one of the guys who was recovering from surgery. Then we turned around and rode back. Those kinds of bonds are priceless, and hard to come by.
I landed on this thread because I happened to be looking for some info on Evos. Surprised the heck out of me to see a Harley discussion on ADVrider. I found it both useful and entertaining. The best laugh came courtesy of nskitts:
Different generations have different taste in scoots, but damn did I laugh at that comment.
Apparently he did w/o your help. That post was made back in April and he hasn't logged on since July. You just crawl out from under your rock?
Lol - he registered to make one post calling me a kool-aid drinker and disappeared
I generally find your posts to be spot on, Bueller, FWIW. And I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge.
I just noticed that this is the first thread Iranian started about the Twin-Cam versus Evo. The newer one is called "evolution engine vs twin cam".
There are those who stir the shit. And then there are some who enjoy licking the stick. Guess which one he is?
Bored 30+ year Harley tech.
I only have one post in the other thread but it is much better than what I've posted here.
What do you know about the Fueling four valve heads. Some guy seems to have the remaining inventory.
The rocker arms are problematic.
For the price a set of Baisley heads would give you what you seek.
It's best as a museum piece.
Functionally, the HP increases were extremely mild, even when cammed for long durations and above 4000 rpms. There are tens of thousands of bikes that make more power with the 2 valve heads and some mild porting.
The truth is, at lower rpms, the intake velocity is higher with 2 valves giving better volumetric efficiency. Simply adding more lift and more area (and more valves) doesn't make for a faster intake charge. In fact, it can provide less.
I've read that before. Looks almost as if that guy is pushing some type of agenda. My guess he's an HD HATER.
Probably suffering from a small man organ part issue of some type.