EWS Immobilizer antenna threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by CarbonCat, Apr 8, 2006.

  1. GB

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    Bob,

    What you describe above sounds like your KEY might be failing. On a dual sport ride last month, a guy on a new GS ADV got the EWS off the beaten track, on a dirt trail.. just as we were about to tackle a steep quad track. The dealer who had organized the ride was there and he said he had had a few EWS ring antenna failures and a couple of keys go bad. He said the key symptoms was an intermittent EWS message, then the bike would work. Always carry a spare.

    And short of reprogramming the BMS-K computer at the factory, there's no way to defeat or disable the immobilizer.. :(:
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  2. Beeming

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    Well that sucks. Anyone know how to hot wire a GSAdv when and if this happens? What if your 1000 miles from help?
    After reading this post about the faulty immobiliser leaving you stranded I'm a bit worried about heading too far off the beaten track until I know how to bypass it.
    Like BMW said to me, we'll come get ya under road side assist...as long as your on a main (gazetted) road...
    Would replacing the ignition module bypass the immobilizer?

    Hope your back on the road soon Adam

    Tads
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  3. adamr

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    I must've tried 15 times to start it over the course of two hours, but no luck. I'll try disconnecting & reconnecting the battery and seeing if that makes a difference.
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  4. BobFV1

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    Thanks for the tip - I do not have a spare key so this is probably as good a time as any to order a new one and keep the current one as a spare. That is, provided I ever get the gas tank back on the bike!
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  5. JimVonBaden

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    Dificulties with the shock installation? :ear

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  6. GB

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    We tried that a few times when the fellow was stuck on the off road trail, to no avail.. Roadside assistance had to make it all the way to the trail! :(:

    I just wish they would give us the option of disabling it permanently and riding without it.
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  8. JimVonBaden

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    In this one case, I have to say I think BMW is working a non-issue here. It sure would be nice if they could simply throw a virtual switch and turn it off. I bet it IS possible.

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  9. GB

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    There's gotta be enough pressure from riders who want to venture off the beaten path or not.. just not have that thing.. I've not had an issue with it, but if I could get rid of it, I would.
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  10. Ricardo Kuhn

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    All This Un-needed Gadgetry makes the new GS as useful as a parachute that does not OPEN

    Very sad, since the Bikes are great.
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  11. Pir8te

    Pir8te over forty victim of fate

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    Ricardo has it right on this one how may GS have been stolen not many in my opinion as useless as tits on a bull and mine has early breast cancer

    Now to my point
    I have an intermittent failure and it seems to occur at the most inopportune times with no pattern that I can think of I am bringing the bike in for a new antenna tomorrow (part finally in)
    If I get a spare what is involved in replacing the EWS and is it a road side repair if EWS dies or is there any computer programing involved to read the new antenna?
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  12. GB

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    Let us know what you find out about the new antenna, if it can be a self installed job or is there some computer work involved. :rolleyes

    My dealer said an intermittent problem on some cases turned out to be the key that needed to be replaced :dunno who knows..

    The GS is hardly ever stolen.. and even if it was, I'd still opt not to have this stuff on my bike.
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  13. ClearwaterBMW

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    it has to be done at the dealer
    not a DO IT YOURSELF job

    BMW better get rid of this ridiculous feature soon
    there have been COUNTLESS RING ANTENNA FAILURES
    this and the "we're only going to give you 1 metal key for your 22K investment" is such bullshit
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    BMW better get rid of this ridiculous feature soon
    there have been COUNTLESS RING ANTENNA FAILURES
    this and the "we're only going to give you 1 metal key for your 22K investment" is such bullshit[/quote]

    Totally agreed. 1 key for one of the most expensive bikes made mean there are some idiots still entrenched within BMW staff. Who's idea was it to sell a bike with a spare plastic key? Why plastic anyway?...


    Tads
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    I was wondering about this fault the other day while I was wrenching on my bike. I have not had this fault yet or ever (depends on how you want to look at it), but I was wondering if the GS911 could pull up the fault code and let you clear it if it truly was an intermitant code error not an actual problem with the key or antena. I have no idea if it would work, just a thought I had. I supose I could go to the GS911 site to ask there.
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  16. GB

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    The GS911 won't clear an EWS fault. The BMS-K bike computer has to have the proper code or it won't allow the bike to start.

    Now.. if only the folks at GS911 can write a program that allows us to load thru the GS911 and permanently cancel the immobilizer function.. :wink: That's what I'd likem / someone to do.
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    I would pay up to $500 for that unit!:thumb

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  18. ClearwaterBMW

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    me, too
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  19. GB

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    So, if each of you is willing to pay $500 for someone to come up with a program that will bypass the immobilizer, so that's $1000 right here, plus there will be others., we could quickly have the GS Immobilizer Bypass Challenge Contest.. let the computer geeks go for it.. first to beat the system wins the money!! :lol3
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  20. gpothoven

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    Seems to me we all paid about $20,000 for a unit that shouldn't have the issue to begin with. :baldy :ruskie :boid When will BMW listen???!!! FFFF^%$^%CCCCC^%*^%*!!!!!!! They just drive me nuts some times. I LOVE the bike, I really do, but sometimes this little stuff just pisses me off. Either BMW doesn't have a feedback system worth a crap to trace what is going wrong with their product, or as I suspect, they've doen the math, and just dont give a rat's ass.