Expanding the Man Cave (build thread)

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by John Smallberries, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. ozmoses

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    I'm suggesting a proper pent roof (<linky ) across the face, above the openings, of the new construction tieing into the existing soffit line.
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  2. John Smallberries

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    eakins: Thanks - I agree with the "stay home" decision.

    Also: Butler Maps are ****ing awesome! Great routes - great waterproof/tearproof paper. When is Michigan coming out?
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  3. eakins

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    After we finish our Mid-Atlantic, then finish our Maine/Maritimes map we will then ride & build a planned upper mid-west map...then we work on mapping Canada & Baja. Think Canada & Baja BDRs too.

    Right now we are slammed working on our 1st of 3 East Coast BDR maps. MABDR.
    Plus getting our Mid-Atlantic state out too in time for the MABDR release in January.
    We always want our state maps done before a BDR of that area is released.

    As you can see it will take a few years.
  4. John Smallberries

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    Do you think there will ever be a Butler TAT map?
  5. John Smallberries

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    Four guys with ladders and hammers can get a lot done in two working days.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    I decided to switch to a pull-down ladder and electric lift instead of permanent stairs. They take up a lot of space in the prime middle of the end wall.


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  6. ericm

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    The pull down ladder in my three car garage/shop never gets folded up. Too much hassle. But it's between two bays so it doesn't take up scarce wall space.
  7. John Smallberries

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    Here is the lift idea I plan to copy



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  8. SafetyThird

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    Just put a short ramp in the ceiling over your lift.

    Put stuff on lift, ride lift up, roll up short ramp.
  9. eakins

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    No, I don't think so unless Sam approaches us for something. That's his baby and he's created great resources for it. Same deal as we will not copy the existing Oregon BDR but rather create another alternative way thru. We mapped the T1 in Idaho as a collaborative with Klim as they are key to it.
  10. eakins

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    Cool idea!, but how is it controlled when you ride up or down with it with the load?
    Guy did not show that off?
  11. John Smallberries

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    No riding with this one. There are lifts with wireless remotes that would work. Basic safety concerns tell me not to ride these to a 12-foot ceiling. A proper man-lift would need some sort of safety catch mechanism in case a cable or the lift failed.
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    [​IMG][​IMG]

    The guys got a start on shingling Friday. No construction today.

    Getting the lift parts ready for paint.


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  13. SafetyThird

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    If you're willing to share, how much is this running you?

    How much for the building? And maybe how much for site prep?

    Thanks much.
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  14. eakins

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    So how do you get up there?
    Sounds like you are still adding attic steps anyway to get up there and this is a lift for stuff vrs hauling it up those steps on your shoulders.

    If it was me and I went thru that expense and design to build that, I'd just beef up all wires, pulleys & lift motor and just ride up and down with it...but that's just me as a safety 3rd kinda guy.
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  15. shinyribs

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    They're heavy, but manageable. I'm just finishing up my shop that I'm building and used a 1.75" x 14" LVL that was 24' long for a ridge beam ( 13' off the ground). I lifted and installed it by myself. Standing on flat ground, one man on each end could toss that up easily.

    Shop is coming along nicely. Congrats!
  16. SafetyThird

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    You're my kinda guy? :rofl
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  17. John Smallberries

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    The plan is for a 12-foot pull-down stairway with the hoist nearby.


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  18. SilentRay

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    Is 12' enough for your lift ? Not wanting to be negative, but i thought 14' was needed .
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    Lots of guys make due with 10, with a few limitations.
  20. John Smallberries

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    Yes - 144" should do the trick. This is the height required for several of the lifts with a fixed top-rail. My top rail moves up/down with the lift forks, but 144" is its maximum travel. By my crude measurements, it is also enough to lift a Ford Expedition up for a full 6 feet of under-car clearance.

    Besides - the building already looks monstrous at 12-feet high.

    The builders come back after their weekend break today and we have no rain in the forecast. I'm expecting to have the roof fully complete, including the tie-in to the small garage. Unfortunately, today is not a good "work from home" day, so I'll only see the end result tonight.

    The builder tells me he also has the asphalt guy lined up for Tuesday!!!
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