Experimenting with what too, and what not too bring

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by phoenixGSA, Jul 4, 2017.

  1. phoenixGSA

    phoenixGSA Adventurer

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    Taking off for a few days and experimenting with what I may need for much longer trips. Just loaded tonight so I'll see how it all works out on the road handling wise tomorrow morning.

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  2. HotChilliColdBeer

    HotChilliColdBeer Human Swizzle Stick

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    You're never gonna tow that trailer, with that motorcycle. I think you have too much stuff. Lose everything in the trailer. And the trailer.




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  3. phoenixGSA

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    Thanks Charlie! I was contemplating that too! :rofl
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    HotChilliColdBeer Human Swizzle Stick

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    Good fun on your travels.

    Ride safe.




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  5. Kd70qc

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    The most gear I've ever carried for my self (including the weight of the Sw motech side and top cases and mounting racks, spare fuel and water was 90 lbs. that was for a two week trip including tent, sleeping bag, sleeping bag pad, but only a couple days of food. I bought food every few days. Do an online search on ultralight backpacking. It will change how you think about gear. The more weight and space you can save on the necessities for the life, the more options you have for emergency stuff for the bike or one or two comfort items.


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  6. Mark Manley

    Mark Manley Long timer

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    You do have rather a lot and with it all piled on the back I expect the bike won't handle very well, you should be able to get all you need for indefinite travel in the panniers and top box although a tank bag is handy for those things you use regularly.
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  7. nickguzzi

    nickguzzi Long timer

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    More stuff than two of us take for a six week camp. But then I am going to be riding in the Alps and other twisty and elevationally challenging roads where handling matters.
    I would lighten up. But it is your trip.
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  8. Friz Freleng

    Friz Freleng Religious zealot

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    Do yourself a favor and lay out your stuff on the garage floor first. On my last trip, I discovered after I set up camp on my first night that I forgot my sleeping bag! That's what happens when you are in a hurry to leave. :bluduh
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  9. phoenixGSA

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    Well it handled much better than expected. 1700km round trip and I really didn't notice much diff while moving. I think it looks heavier than it is. The bags are mostly light stuff. Things like a bike cover that of course has to be x large to cover everything are a PIA but figured it might be needed sometime. Things could be packed more dense but I hate having to dig through everything. I'll DSC00033.JPG keep refining. Thanks for the input!
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  10. Friz Freleng

    Friz Freleng Religious zealot

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    In an effort to make it easier to find things in stuffed panniers, some riders buy inserts similar to what RKA and Cee Bailey's make. They look nice but they're expensive. I use expandable mesh shopping bags to compartmentalize my things. They work great and they don't cost much.
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  11. PapaWolf

    PapaWolf When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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    To expand on this: lay everything out on the floor, then ask a friend or significant other to go through the whole lot with you. My goal is to get rid of 25-30% of this first go, and then pack everything into stuff sacks and panniers and such.

    Also, when I return, I look at everything as I unpack and think "Did I use this? And if not, is it a vital safety or survival item?" If I answer no to both of these, away it goes!

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  12. bigphish

    bigphish Curiously Satisfying

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    Why would you need a bike cover??
    I just returned from a month on the road and even after having done this a bunch I am already planning my next trip with a few items less than I took on this one
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  13. phoenixGSA

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    Mesh bag looks like a good idea, bike cover was in case I needed to stay at a motel at some point just to cover the goods. Still refining. Thanks for all the tips, it's appreciated!
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  14. Turtletownman

    Turtletownman Been here awhile

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    Tank bag for maps, rain suit, cap and a piece of metal for the sidestand in mud. One pannier for smelly stuff-food, coffee pot, pans, deodorant, tooth paste etc, another for clothing and camp shoes. A dry bag on the luggage rack holds all camping gear. Tools in under seat storage, but I sometimes carry a big "C" clamp in a side bag for a bead breaker in case of tire problem.
    When I took a sidecar on the last trip, the problem was too much room. It was too easy to stuff something in the car and then I had to unload a lot to find whatever I was looking for.
    Without a cooler, which I cannot use in some national forests, I carry a couple of simple no refrigeration meals and eat a full meal at lunch while riding.
    I saw two men a while back with some kind of a reverse trike with a steering wheel pulling a trailer and staying in a cabin and not cooking. To each his own.

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  15. blender

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    If I stay at a motel and have my camping gear with me, it goes into the room with me. Yeah, it can be a PITA to schlepp gear but better than leaving it on the bike. I leave nothing on the bike overnight.

    Just don't get a third story walk-up motel room....
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    Three days or three years you need the same stuff
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  17. White mt guy

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    Wow, that looks like a lot of stuff. Just curious , how about a list of what you brought. I'm pretty sure if I put that much stuff on my bike I would come out in the am to find a puddle of motocycle in my garage. Hahahahaha.
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  18. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    I honestly don't know how I could carry that much stuff going solo.

    2 up with 2 bags, 2 mats, 2 chairs, 2 fishing rods, tent, axe, cooking gear, a small cooler of food, clothing, 2 pairs of crocks. Etc. And it all fits in 2 cases.

    Camped last weekend 2 up. Cases held just about everything. The trunk only had my tablet and ballcap. Brought a redverz tent knowing we'd get a lot of rain and strapped that on top of a side case. All the gear above fit in 2 side cases and a 3 person tent can fit in the side case as well.

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  19. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    Something I found helped over the years. After camping a few times and adding /subtracting gear I came up with a solid list. I printed it off and laminated a couple lists, one I keep on the inside of my garage cabinet door and a cell phone sized I keep in the tankbag.

    I refer to it when ready to go, and it's worked out great.
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  20. brgsprint

    brgsprint Been here awhile

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    General rule of thumb for packing for a trip: Make 2 piles. One for gear and clothes. The other for the money you will need. Cut the first pile in half and double the second pile.
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