Experimenting with what too, and what not too bring

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by phoenixGSA, Jul 4, 2017.

  1. sajor

    sajor Been here awhile

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    Only did some over nights within my state of Az but im a avid backpacker and ultra light at that lol, in your post i only saw your panniers , top case and luggage on top , it would help to get better suggestions if you took a pic of what your actually taking . This is a rule of thumb "take what you need, not what you want"
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  2. yair1956

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    +1 with 805gregg, not to be Spartan, but the less the better, especially when on an adventure bike and good chance you will hit some unpaved, gravel, and all kind of crappy roads. I just ended up 2 month 12K Miles adventure ride on my 12GSA, I kept the payload at about 65Lb .... C'est tout.. needles to say that if you have no intention to camp you can then shed about 20Lb easily
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  3. AustinRT

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    Have you considered putting some of that stuff inside the cases? Crazy I know. Kidding, pack and ride as you wish. Obviously you value the camping experience hence the soft cooler and that's fine.
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  4. yair1956

    yair1956 Been here awhile

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    Left case my bedroom (all camping & sleeping stuff)
    Right case my closet, include some riding gear
    Top case Kitchen, on top in the duffle, I have my rain gear
    Back seat locked in the mesh security net, is dry bag with Bike stuff , on top is my cooler
    All together not acceding 65Lb.... I can go Round the World like this with no problem...:-)
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  5. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad Former World's Foremost Authority

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    Everyone has different objectives as to why they are camping as well as different levels of comfort. Some will be Spartan as hell wearing the same underwear for a week and eating wild hickory nuts and be happy as a clam. Others trend more towards "Glamping". Some camp only as a needed in order to get to their destination in a hurry. Others stop early and often spend several days in awesome camping spots. I think OP's technique is the best in that he is doing dry runs or what I call "functions testing". Several short trips really help you refine your gear. The only wrong way to go camping is to not go at all.
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  6. AustinRT

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    that is a lot of rain gear. that is where we part ways. my riding gear is my rain gear. after first two trips pulling over to suit up was history. For long distance trips Gortex is the way to go. No duplication nor standing on the side of the road hopping on one foot.
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  7. yair1956

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    ....could't handle the camping mattress (getting old) so picked up inflatable full size mattress, sleeping bag moved next to the rain gear....
    ... Riding gear is Scorpion Yosemite, Pants are Olympia Expedition, water resistance but not water proof, top priority for me is ventilation....
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  8. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    All my stuff solo would only require the 2 side cases. The trunk would be empty until I hit the liquor store.
    2 up I don't have that much stuff. And I carry 2 chairs, an awe and 2 fishing rods.

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  9. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    I wouldn't take more than I could hold in my arms. At most the three cases and a duffel across the seat. At that point, I feel overloaded.
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  10. yair1956

    yair1956 Been here awhile

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    ..well, IMHO & experience it's more about the weight that you load and the distribution than the number of items. I thing 65Lbs Inclusive pretty is reasonable for a long trip .....
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  11. Aztecking

    Aztecking Adventurer

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    I find myself taking less and less each year and you will too I'm sure. I've been buying better camping gear that's lighter and more compact so that helps. I also went with Goretex riding pants and my jacket has a rain liner that is small and just goes on over my jacket so that saves space and time when it rains. I also take less clothes each year. You'll learn all this the more trips you take.

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  12. yair1956

    yair1956 Been here awhile

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    .. have been in the saddle for over 40 years riding in 3 continents, so overtime I gained some experience ...lol

    Anyway, I did my "Homework" and every trip I do re-assessments and pack accordingly, of curse there are always some adjustments need to be done along the way.
    I' m very careful with what I load I'm trying to use the latest innovations ( I, even, do not carry batteries for my devices, all charged via my USB Ports, no soap or Shampoo containers but all in small very compact Soap Sheets, very light Air Compressor, whatever gear and personal effects I carry are Synthetic, I do not carry the Riding Gear Liners, I have heated Vast which I use as Jacket, & a windbreaker, & so on & so on ..... I consider my self as an efficient self contained rider. :-)

    Cheers

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  13. nickguzzi

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    For two of us: For up to six weeks, in southern France/Italy.
    A side case each, to hold every thing each needs, clothes, washing, sleeping bag and air mat. Everything - clothes get washed (or not) toiletries get bought. Whatever you want, as long as it fits inside.
    Tank bag, two layer. Bottom, tools and spares. Top, the kitchen, trangia, mugs, plates, cook knife + board, s&p, coffee and 1l water container.
    Top box, empty ish. A few maps. Only one helmet fits, so chain for bike and other helmet. Some food gets temporarily stored. I made a rack for the top, the tent is bungied on so the passenger has something to lean against.

    Mostly pitched and packed each night in a different spot - that sort of regime makes you aware of the pointlessness of taking too much.

    Arrive early for best emplacement, sit and drink cold beer from the shop. Pitch tent. Fluff and air bags on tent. Inflate mats (have electric pump). Drink more beer and sit till cool. Make beds.
    Assemble food and open wine - available from local vinyard/shops along the way - sourdough bagette - "la traditionelle", cheese or charcuiterie, local toms, cucs, beets etc. Fruit. Sit on fleeces.
    Walk to bar if feeling sociable/thirsty. Otherwise sleeping comes easy after a long day in the saddle.
    Breaking camp takes 10 minutes - up to 5x/yrxfourty years of practice.
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  14. Bill 310

    Bill 310 Poser Emeritus

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    Exactly, we are spending a month Germany, Poland, Swedenm Finland, Norway, Denmark, Germany. Weather temperature range adds a bit of kit.

    We will be on our 1200 Tenere. Jesse side bags, 65 Litre Jesse top box, camping 80% of the time. I have two 30 litre Ortlieb zip bags for the Jesse side case lid racks

    We are probably going to take our Redverz tent, I am 6'4" and will be 63. I have spent too much time crawling into a tent.

    I plan to use the Ortlieb bags for camping & cooking gear and their placement adds to mass centralization on the bike.

    The top case will hold light /bulky stuff, fresh dinner / breakfast food.

    One of the things that I have observed is a lot of people touring two up , or even solo, never consider is can the motorcycle carry the load?

    This starts with adequate suspension for the total load, then looking at the tire load capability, and thirdly packing with the weight low and not a lot piled on the bike.'s rear rack.

    When we finalize the load we will ride out to our local suspension shop and get the sag set.


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