f650gs vs vstrom abs again

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by melodicly, Aug 23, 2007.

  1. kindofblue

    kindofblue Ride it like you stole it

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    I had a WeeStrom and thought it would be a great first bike. I also thought it was very nimble and "flickable." But that perspective depends whether you're coming from a bigger or a smaller bike.

    Ride both and see which turns you on. That said, I think this is the last year for the Beemer 650.
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  2. melodicly

    melodicly illeteratte

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    Thanks guys this is very helpful. I would like to see the new 800gs as that just might be the best of both worlds, but I think my fear of the wee feeling like a bigger bike than it is are not really warrented. As we all know it doesn't really matter until you get to a stop sign! Not to mention there are some great used wees out there for great prices. Anybody know why they don't seem to be selling very quickly?
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  3. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod I want to do right, but not right now

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    Everyone is looking for a deal :deal
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  4. Robert_C

    Robert_C Long timer

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    I have been hinking the same thoughts. I am still in China, and will be for almost anothr year. However, when I return (assuming I can find a job) I will be looking fo another bike.

    First the hard part, I am 5'6" (I was at a Honda dealer in Chico, CA looking at a used KLR once and, as I was leaving, the sales man remarked to another, "short F#&%ers should stick to kids bikes."). The nearesst city that I am likely to find employment in is about a 60mi slab ride each way (I actiually tend to "short cut" about 10 of those miles on a two lane twisty road, Hwys' 263 & 96).

    This leaves me looking for an inexpensive to opperate (which is not always the cheapest to buy) bike with ABS. I have done all weather commuting without ABS; very simply, I want it on my next bike. It needs the electric power to run a vest (both the Vstrom and the f650 have this).

    So, how badly does it wack the Vstroms handleing to lower it, I do a lot of forest roads but very little trail riding and over 95% of my riding is street. The lowering links at Murphs kits only go down 3/4", does that seem to be enough for 5'6"?

    Any guestimates of total cost comparisons over 50K miles/ What about total engine and chasis life? (yes, I know that a small car is cheaper. I do not want to drive a car to work)

    I currently have a Yamaha V-Star 650. I am okay with power (yes, I would like more... but I am okay with it), The seat hight is great, I can flatfoot it easly, and th etall windshield provides pretty good upperbody wind protection, the lower deflectors help a lot. With that said, some of the things I do not like are that the brakes are terrible. The lights are poor (I have added lights, that helps a lot), and the seating position is hard on my tail.

    Any other bikes I should be looking at? None of Kawasakis, commuter suitable, products offer ABS in The States. This also applies to Honda. The only other thing I see is the Suzuki SV650 ABS. However, all I have seen on it is that it is not really a suitable commuter bike.
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  5. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    I'm 5'7'' and with my 30" inseam can flatfoot my F650GS even with the taller Dakar seat on it. It's a really fun bike to ride.
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  6. melodicly

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    sounds like a new thread Rob. nothin personal. I would love to talk to ya about China (as well as bikes), but you will probably get a better response on a new thread involving, "5'6" rider wants commuter", or somthin like that anyway. I know I am 5'11" with long skinny legs and the stock wee is comfertable to me but not flat footed. Add a corbin and it is even worse (due to the width). I have pretty much decided on the wee due to the value and long distance comfert but I am still enticed by the light weight low gravity feel of the gs. Maybe there is a good touring saddle for the gs that would keep it from feeling like a dirt bike on your commute, I dunno. I think for me the twin will be more gratifying in the end (yeah I know I can't spell). Zhen, Shan, Ren (truth, compassion, tolerance). Good luck!
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  7. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    I just made a run to the store on the GS. It's such a nice motor, just give a quick twist of the throttle in first and the front end pops right up, totally controllable. For the first time in my life I think I'll get good at wheelies :evil Meanwhile my TDM900 sits unused....
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  8. Rovas

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    I had the same dilemma, GS650 vs. DL650. After riding both bikes several times, I went with the K650 05 V-Strom and haven't regretted it. I still like the GS's but it just wasn't as nice on the street as the Strom (where I spend the majority of my time-canyons,dirt/grvel roads). On dirt, as previously mentioned, neither is a real dirt bike. I have taken my Strom on some "trails" where it didn't belong (and banged up the exhaust pipe) but it was managable. Non the less, I won't be riding like that again on the Strom (I'll get a dirt bike). On the street, there is no comparison. THe GS is nice, the Strom nicer (esp with the Tourances). Off road, there'r the same. Both great bikes, just the Strom fit my 90/10 street/dirt bill better. Not to confuse things, but... I'd also take a good look at the DR 650. IT was the nicest riding thumper I rode and actually beat the GS in my book. Good luck
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  9. B.E. Coyote

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    In your title you mention the DL 650 ABS.

    Check to see if the abs can be turned on and off. I am pretty sure it can be on the GS but not on the Wee.


    If you are going into the woods, that is a nice option.
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  10. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod I want to do right, but not right now

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    It can be de-activated on the WeeABS. Pop the seat, and right there are two fuses for the ABS system. Remove either one, and the system stops working.
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  11. Stuntman

    Stuntman Been here awhile

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    If you plan on pulling the trigger on the wee-strom you might want to consider the re-sale issue. At some point you will want a different bike, and as you have already pointed out, there are a lot of v-stroms for sale and they aren't selling. I know of two used ones in awsome shape that have been for sale for a long time in Baton Rouge. They are listed in the classifieds at www.dualsportridersoflouisiana.com.

    I own a F650GS Dakar and I have a lot of experience on the wee-stom. Here is my 2 cents:

    Around town the GS is easier to manuver around due to the lower center of gravity. It will give you more confidence. Off-road the Dakar version is FAR superior to the wee-strom. For long distance riding the wee-strom is superior. You can easily go long distances on the GS but the wee does it better. I feel fit and finsh is equal. As for dealer support, they all suck around New Orleans so that is a toss up although there are more Zuki dealers that BMW.
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  12. melodicly

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    That's what I needed. I guess I really should have posted this on that forum, but work has actually picked up a bit for the last couple of weeks so haven't had much 'putor time. It sounds like with all of the long distance I do in my cage (would much rather it by my bike) that the wee is the best choice. However you know these roads I commute through (Carrolton to Esplande to Dectur) so you know what I mean by car sized holes. They seem to show up over night no matter how well you know the road (my ford explorer is falling apart from the wheels up!) and would really like your opinion on these two bikes. Thanks for postin!
    Dale
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