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Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Gaucho del Norte, Sep 29, 2008.
Any thoughts on when BMW will produce the adventure?
The 800 IS the Adventure version. The 650 is not.
how about, expanded fuel tank and engine guards
Well, there are a few engine guards available now (Givi, SW-Motech, Hepco-Becker, etc.), but AFAIK there aren't any expanded fuel tanks specific to the new GSs yet. Pretty sure Touratech will eventually offer one that will be A) usuriously expensive, and B) permanently on back-order. But I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for BMW to come out with a bike with those kinds of features. I'm sure they'd fear the impact on 1200GS sales.
But what do I know?
But I can't see a way to expand the fuel tank which is under the seat without upsetting the look and use of the motorcycle.
Oddly once I study the 800 GS the placement of the fuel cap is on the wrong side of the motorcycle, either you must walk around to the fuel pump or pass the hose over top from the side you dismount. That is stupid, but so is calling a 800cc a 650. Anyways I still like the motorcycle.
The local BMW club had a ride on sunday with almost 50 participants. I had several conversations with other BMW riders about how the F650GS is actually a "detuned" 800cc engine. My guess is 95% of the people I spoke to didn't believe me or didn't understand.
It is also very confusing to know if someone is talking about the F650GS single or twin.
I would guess that this will be the last year that this model is referred to as the F650GS, actually I expected BMW to use the six month delay in selling the bike to come up with some other designation like F800GS/2 or something.
I understand that BMW also has a model that only produces 36hp. What do they call that model?
I also like the bike, I just wish there was a less confusing model designation assigned to it. Trying to link this bike to the F650GS single is just DUMB IMHO
As I understand - and i could be wrong ... for 2009 - the GxxxX line will be the moniker for the 650 cc single G650X Country Moto etc.. and the fxxxGS line will be the 800cc twin, but they are calling the detuned milder one a 650
Personally, I think it's kind of dumb... But the guess @ the dealer where I went to oggle a f800gs, was that it might be an insurance "beater" - ie that some can get breaks on their insurance when it's badged as a 650 instead of a 800cc
As opposed to 2008 where the GxxxX line is the moniker for the 650 cc single G650X Country Moto etc.. and the fxxxGS line is the 800cc twin.
The new F650GS has an 798cc engine. Get over it!
The fuel cap is on the "uphill side" of the fuel cell when the bike is on its sidestand. Nothing odd about that.
Many autos have thier fuel cap on the right rear fender. Again, nothing odd about it.
Personally, I think a fuel tank should be in the traditional spot. I also think the F800GS's fuel cell is too small for an ADVbike...
Good thoughts on the expanded tank. The question for myself is.....sell the 1150 Adventure for the F800 GS. Any word on how the 800 is for big miles and long days?
I fill on the center stand, but I like the fuel under the seat idea for lower CG. I too wish they did the tank top filler, both should not to difficult to do for the factory design.
As the owner of an F800S for a year and almost 23k miles, the fuel tank and cap placement is one of the great features. I don't have to unstrap and restrap my tankbag every time I stop for gas. Awesome.
Since my fuel economy is very high (63mpg in interstate cruizing) the net range per tank is still over 200 miles.
I would guess the F800GS can deliver similar results.
VFR is soon to be departed for a new toy... (it was a good run)
+1 on the filler location. No need to move tank bag (if you can fit one on the GS8), no gas in your lap or dripping on the hot engine in an overfill, and it's easy to park on the sidestand for fueling. Just gotta remember which side of the pump to sidle up to!
This month's issue of BIKE has a fuel consumption challenge for their long-term test fleet. The 800GS walked it, with something like 225 or 240 miles on one tank (I can't remember the exact figure).
I agree on the placement being handy for not unpacking to refuel, although the low side high side issue is at odds. Like I said on the center stand is the way I always fuel up, and based on that I'd prefer the dismount side be the the pump side.
Learning new tricks is tough, huh?
Why'd you fuel other bikes on the center stand? Because of the top-center mounted fuel filler. Why heave a bike onto the stand if you don't have to? Put the GS on the sidestand, and still fill to capacity.
Sounds good in my book.