F800GS chain and battery

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Camel ADV, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. Camel ADV

    Camel ADV Long timer

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    6256km, broken chain. 600km east of Chita, Russia. SIde plate broke. Replaced with a new master. 7056km noticed a clicking noise...2 more broken side plates. Chain lubed daily as well as checked-adjusted daily. 800lbs with gear and me. Replaced chain with D.I.D. and have ridden (hard) all through Mongolia with no issues.

    Factory Exide battery took a dump about 100km east of Ulan Ude, Russia. Turned the bike off and it wouldnt start again. Multimeter showing 10 volts. Wouldnt take a charge. Replaced with $25 Russian POS battery...worked all through Mongolia and back into Russian with no issues so far.

    Fuel gauge randomly sticking at full or empty depending on the day. Side stand is awful and my bike has fallen a few times even on hard level ground even with the foot enlarger.

    Getting frustrated.

    Other than that, I love the bike:D
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  2. HighTechCoonass

    HighTechCoonass Living the Dream....

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    My bike was one of the first issue US models...the battery is shot....Is there a replacement under BMW...or just bite the bullet and spring for an oddsey?
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  3. itsatdm

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    BMW warrantied my battery. Good dealer told me to just bring it in, instead hauling my dead bike 60 miles, as required by corp to see if it really won't start:deal . By luck they were out of the 800 batteries and gave me a brand name battery.:clap
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  4. upweekis

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    wonder if that 800 lbs could have anything to do with it?
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    I assume you are referring to me. In the future I will put the F where appropriate for your reading pleasure :augie
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  6. Camel ADV

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    There wasn't/isn't a BMW Motorrad dealer anywhere close and I didn't want to carry the dead battery and mangled chain for thousands of miles in hopes of getting warranty. I am confident in the D.I.D. chain and I will replace the battery with an aftermarket one once we get back to North America.

    I was thinking that the extra weight may have been the reason for the chain issues but the roads we were on when it happened weren't too bad and the bike is well under GVW. The D.I.D. I replaced it with now has more miles on it with the same weight. The abuse it was subjected to in Mongolia was much worse than what the original had on the pavement/gravel in Siberia.

    Was just curious if others were having simliar issues.
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  7. NJ Moto

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    So much for the "reliable chain drive" that I read on BMWs advertisement. I'm amazed that they still can't get the fuel gage right three years later.
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    3 years... Since at least 2002 with the 1150GS fuel gauges have had issues...
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  9. Harry Swan

    Harry Swan One more time

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    FWIW, my battery began to fail in the middle of BC ... Had a new one bused to me in Jasper. My chain is still good though, but the battery lasted 2500 miles.
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  10. HighTechCoonass

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    Wal-mart Battery for the F800gs is a "in-stock" battery.- I noticed the motorcycle battery that fits the f800gs is a 14BS - the same as the R1200gs. Wally World battery has a "GS" logo on it. Exactly that same logo as the BMW "GS". The battery is a AGM...sealed Gas matt battery. You have to add the electrolite...let it sit for 1 hour then charge it for 3-7 hours at a 1 amp rate - not to exceed 2 amps or it will damage it.

    The story of GS.....
    GS Battery is the American subsidiary of GS Yuasa Corporation of Japan, which are formed after the merger of Japan Storage Battery and Yuasa Battery in 2004. GS Yuasa group is comprised of the company and 87 subsidiaries and 45 affiliates and with revenue exceeds US$2 billion.

    I installed this one on my F800gs and will see how it works out. Price...$65.00 (9.00 core exchange fee)
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  11. Camel ADV

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    The Yuasa battery that was in my Can-Am Renegade lasted 4 months before taking a dump...so Yuasa is on my do not purchase list ; )

    Hope you have better luck than I did!
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  12. HitGirl

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    Please forgive my NooB'ness but anyone know if a tenderer would have helped? Also, would a tenderer for a 650GS work for the 800?:shog
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  13. Indy Unlimited

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    No tender will help with crappy quality. I trust my adventure riding with Yuasa YTZ series on all of my bikes. My Husky had a stock Varta battery that was crapping out on everyone even with or without a tender. They short internally and fail catastrophically. Exide seems to be no better on our BMWs so swap it out now for the best.:1drink Keep an eye on your chain and when you see signs replace it with a DID. Earlier F800GS came with a cheap no name chain but my BMW came with a CZ chain that looks OK but I am keeping a close eye on her for cracks or wear. I usually get 10,000. miles out of a dual sport chain. Time will tell.
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  14. Camel ADV

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    Mine was a CZ, spit out 3 links (separate occasions). The DID lasted the rest of the trip (27,000km) with no issues.
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  15. Indy Unlimited

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    Good to know I guess I just ordered the DID 525ZVM2 chain now and should minimize the risk of punching the engine case.:eek1 Thanks for the info. I did not know the new thicker side plate CZ chains were also failing since the 2010 models all got 0.2 mm thicker side plates on the CZ chain and have a more sliver finish to them then the 2008 and 2009 model CZ chains that were a black finish.:ear
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  16. RobTheRigger

    RobTheRigger Killing threads here since 2008

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    I figured the battery issue was the result of me leaving my Hellas on, so didn't consider that it might be a POS. I replaced with the Wally one and no issues.

    Rob
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  17. Indy Unlimited

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    You are right again JoelWisman. Odyssey makes a great battery too I use in my truck and trailer.
    You can do more research and find many KTMs, Yamahas and Huskys all getting upgraded to Yuasa YTZ batteries over the last 5 years. So I am not the only one that has a good experience with the YTZ series in particular not all Yuasa/Exide batteries.

    You have an amazing amount of criticism to other peoples opinions and experiences as I have seen your other posts on other threads as well. I was only posting my opinion and experience no trying to start a war with your knowledge.:wink:
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  18. Indy Unlimited

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    You don't see the difference between forum experience and personal opinion!

    Fact: People are experiencing Exide Battery failures on F800GS models around the world. Varta had the same sudden failure issues on many Huskies world wide as well. Note I said crappy quality. The ones that hold up work great but QC on these things seems to be a challenge for the manufacturers.

    Experience: I have had great luck with the Yuasa YTZ series batteries on all of my bikes!

    Opinion: Mine is based on the above. But it is only my opinion to share with the rest of our forum members. There is no reason to take this personally JoelWisman.
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  19. Indy Unlimited

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    Cool. Just wanted to make sure you were not taking it further than stating your experiences and opinions and slamming others on the forum. :feelgood
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  20. dukedar

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    2009 F800GS - 7000 kms

    Stock Chain - No Issues - Cleaned and Oiled every 3000 kms with Motul cleaner and road lube. It has only needed one small adjustment so far.

    Stock Battery - No issues - Put it on the tender only when its cold or for storage.

    Maybe I have been lucky?

    FWIW my last bike, a '93 Nighthawk killed its lead acid Yuasa after 6 months. It was only $10 more for the YTX, and the Honda dealer didn't have any other brand. I was stuck at the time and didn't run to Wal-Mart or elsewhere. The YTX was still going strong 2 years later when I sold the bike. Same conditions for the tender. So who knows? :dunno

    I think that batteries are fickle things. All that it takes is one plate or piece to break and short inside. My dealer has a release form that releases them from responsibility for the battery. They practically impose a tender on you (I refused, because I already had a Yuasa one :rofl). But they do make a point about not crying to them if you leave the bike sit for a month and it doesn't start :deal

    My 2 cents...

    Hopefully we can all get along before this gets tossed to Jo mamma :kumbaya

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