F800GS / F650GS Britania Composites Fairing

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Ian B, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. OnkelPopanz

    OnkelPopanz Adventurer

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    Hi Ian,

    in Europe any motorcycle fairing must wear an "e-sign" on it. That's similar to the DOT-number in the US I think.

    Otherwise you migth be charged by the police any time they get you, which costs about 100,- € for each offense and you are commited to remove the shield, of course...
  2. Ian B

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    I had heard of something like this from a guy in Germany, but thought it only applied in Germany.
  3. OnkelPopanz

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    Hhm. All Vehicles in the EU have to be approved. Maybe in Germany the controls are a little bit more.

    Anyhow you would sell a lot more of your fairings if they'd have an e-sign I'm sure.

    On the other hand, you are selling a lot of your fairings in Canada and the US, so I understand the European market is not so important. Cheers! :beer
  4. Ian B

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    Actually, nearly as many M2's go to Europe as here in N. America and we now have the Mirage 3 as well ( for the 1200 boxer), so I'll look into what is involved with approval.

    Thanks

    Ian
  5. OnkelPopanz

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    Don't get me wrong, I didn't want to offend you.
    Explaining things in English is a little difficult for me. :)

    Really thought your main market is America and Canada.
  6. Ian B

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    Certainly no offense taken at all :D It may well be that a lack of certification has been an issue over there and I've just not known about it.

    Thanks

    Ian
  7. OnkelPopanz

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    But you are not planning to get such a certificate for your fairings?
  8. Ian B

    Ian B Fairing Manufacturer

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    I'm looking into what's involved in getting certification.
  9. OnkelPopanz

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    It would be amazing, I'd place an order at once! :D

    Will you report back here if you knew more?
  10. F650Dakar_Norway

    F650Dakar_Norway What off-season?

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    E-certification is not enforced with such rigeur as in Germany elsewhere in Europe.

    Here in Norway it's not even a subject for scrutiny.

    The German TUV technical regulations for motorcycle acessories are among the strictest worldwide - but also unique for Germany so far - as far as I know here from a Norwegian perspective.
  11. Ian B

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    Thanks for adding this. There are more M2's in Scandinavia than anywhere else over there and I was wondering why this issue had not been raised before. There are 5 that I know of in Germany, but perhaps the inspectors think the M2 is OEM !

    Anyway, I'll look into it anyway and report back here.

    Thanks

    Ian
  12. OnkelPopanz

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    Well you're right, the TÜV is quite strict and the police maybe as well.

    On the other hand is Norway not part of the EU. Maybe this is the reason of not needing an E-Sign there?
  13. F650Dakar_Norway

    F650Dakar_Norway What off-season?

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    The German ABE ( Allgemeiner Betriebs Erlaubnis ) rules are known to be more strict and rigorously enforced than any other EU or non-EU countries.

    This dates back to several seventies vintage high speed autobahn accidents with aftermarket fairings on early Gold Wings and other brands at elevated speeds.

    As we know - most other countries don't have free speed autobahns - hence also a less restrictive aftermarket equipment approval regime than Germany.

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  14. Ian B

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    Well, you learn something new every day :clap

    Many thanks

    Ian
  15. OnkelPopanz

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    Well, in other EU - Countries there are the same rules. Maybe the authorities of some countries are not so interested in these rules. ;)
  16. Ian B

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    'Hmm. We could open up all sorts of 'politically incorrect' discussions here, which is probably not a good idea ! However, this is my take on EU laws from what I can see from over here :

    Germany - Laws are created for a reason and should be adhered to !
    Brits ( of which I am one !) - Don't like any EU laws!
    Fr....... - Know the laws and decide which ones suit and ignore which ones don't !
    Gr ....... - What's an EU Law ?

    Couldn't resist it !:wink:

    Ian
  17. dsmvault

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    Anyone with a (preferably 2013 ) white F800GS with white fairing/clear screen would care to post some pics?

    Currently torn between white fairing/clear screen and black fairing/clear screen :-/

    Thanks in advance!
  18. Ian B

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    Some photos here for you. Having seen both for real, I have to say I prefer the Black, it looks very sharp along with all the other black bits on the bike. The White can look a bit "too much white" I think, but it's all in the 'beholder' of course.

    The main thing is get one or the other !!:wink:

    Cheers Ian

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  19. dsmvault

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    Black it is!

    Counting the days!
  20. mmmmbeeeeer

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    I'm currently tossing up between upgrading my KLR to a Tiger 800xc or an F800GS Adventure.

    One of the things I don't really like about the GSA is the windscreen and I'd be seriously thinking about swapping it for a Mirage 2 if it fits.

    Looking at the mountings, it seems like they are the same and the bar that supports the OEM screen looks like it can be removed without any ill effects.

    I'm wondering if anyone has tried fitting a Mirage 2 to an 800GSA?

    Thanks!

    Pete