F800GS Holan Crashbars report

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by The Griz, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. Ballbearing

    Ballbearing Adventurer

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    Well, I settled on these bars and decided to purchase them a few minutes ago. Unfortunately, they are showing out of stock.

    Rob, any idea when you'll have some more?

    Thanks.
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  2. MCMXCIVRS

    MCMXCIVRS Long timer

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    I didn't even get instructions. I looked the bars and hardware over and they seem pretty straight forward to install. I'm pretty sure I'll figure it out.

    I'll have lots of goodies to install when the bike comes in.
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  3. F800 Rob

    F800 Rob MotoInsight

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    If you didn't receive instructions, that was my mistake. Use the contact form on HolanUSA.com, and I'll be sure to email you a set over.

    Next Holan shipment is less than 10 days out.


    Rob
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  4. Singletrack_mind

    Singletrack_mind Cave Man

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    I guess I was lucky and got a set from the last shipment at F800 Depot (thanks Rob). Like some other folks here, I found them to be a bit of a challenge to fit. In the end, I did get them all lined up without any modifications, but there were certainly some times where, as someone else said, I was thinking "there is no WAY this is going to work". One of the oddities I remember from the instructions was that they confused the right and left spacers for the upper mounts, but that's easy to realize when you are actually putting it all together. Also, as someone mentioned, my set is a little off center when done. It's not a big deal, and could possibly be tweaked back if I had the patience to take them off again, but I don't.

    I am using the Hyde Racing plastic engine guard, and was able to mount the Holan bars with it after two modifications:

    On the left side, the Hyde bolts to the engine at the same point the forward end of the Holan mounting plate uses. The Holan has a spacer behind it, so I simply cut another spacer that was 3mm shorter, and bolted the Holan parts over the Hyde. It worked nicely.

    On the right, the Hyde comes up high over the exahust and obscures the area where the lower mounting plate needs to go. I cut out just enough plastic to clear the lower end of the Holans and again, it all bolted up neatly.

    There is one big downside to this combination though: You have to remove the Hyde engine guard to change the oil. That's OK, but now the crash bars are gong to have to be partially disassembled to get that one bolt out on the left side so I can drop the guard. Given all the work it took to get them mounted, I am not looking forward to this. The hardest part will be dealing with the nuts that back up the "Sacrificial" bolts on the left side lower mount plate. They happen to line up right on the edge of the Hyde plastic, and press hard against it. It is very easy to accidentally loose one of those nuts over the edge, and when you do, it's pretty damn difficult to retrieve from inside the bash guard because it sits very close to the engine. I think the solution to this will be to weld some nuts to the back of the plate in the same way Holan already has on the right side. Holan never envisioned removing the mounting plates with the bars still bolted to them, so the forward bolt on both plates is pretty well covered by the crash bar. Since I will need to extract that holt far enough to free the bash guard, I cut down a basic L-shaped allen wrench so I can access the bolt even with the crash bar still in place.

    I'll wait a few thousand miles before going through the oil change routine though.

    I chose both these pieces largely because I wanted all the junk I needed to add to the bike to be as snug and form-fitting as possible. In that regard, both parts are great, and they can be made to fit together well.
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  5. johngil

    johngil Reseda, CA

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    I really liked not getting instructions w/ my set of bars. It added one more beer to the job.
    I get questions/comments on the Holans every time someone checks the bike out.
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  6. MCMXCIVRS

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    I think I'll send an email for the instruction. Then when I do the install in less time, I can sit back, relax and enjoy the beer while admiring the bike and the bars. :slurp :photog :loaded :freaky
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  7. Ballbearing

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    Does anyone know if the adventure spec bashplate works with these bars?

    I didn't see anything when I searched.

    Thanks,
    Jason
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  8. F800 Rob

    F800 Rob MotoInsight

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    The Holans, I can confirm, do not. Neither do the BMW, SW-Motech, Hepco & Becker, GIVI, or Wild@Heart. I've had a set of each at one point along the line.

    Nothing to my knowledge works with the ADV Spec bashplate except for the ADV Spec bars. Possibly the Metal Mule, but they are even more expensive than the ADV Spec for what looks like less coverage.
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  9. n8foo

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    Does anybody elses Holans not line up exactly right? On the right side, my fingers don't fit between the bike and the bars (1/3 inch), but on left side I could easily polish the plastics (2 inch). Did I get a bum set or is this par for the course?

    They are badass-beautiful tho. http://twitpic.com/25d9y
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  10. Ballbearing

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    This alignment issue has me a little concerned, but, the bars do look good. What do you think about the level of protection n8foo?

    Thanks for the info Rob.

    Anybody have ideas on the best bashplate out there (to go along with the Holan bars) ?
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  11. F800 Rob

    F800 Rob MotoInsight

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    That isn't normal at all, and is the first report of this I've gotten.

    Forward me some pictures and we'll see about getting you a replacement set.
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  12. BykMyk

    BykMyk Been here awhile

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    I have Holan’s also. At first it bothered me that the right side upper bar was closer to the plastic than the left, but now I don’t even notice it. As I rack up the miles they seem to have “settled” a little and the fit has improved. I really like how they conform to the bike looks OEM.
    Mike
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  13. johngil

    johngil Reseda, CA

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    I was going to say the same thing. I just didn't think anyone would believe the bars just straightened themselves.
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  14. BykMyk

    BykMyk Been here awhile

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    A little more info:
    Even after the “settling”, the right side is still closer to the plastic than the left. The only concern I would have is that in a fall the plastic on the right side may contact the bar. But as solid as these bars feel, I doubt it. I’m talking about the #2 bar from the top. I just went out and did a rough measurement of the difference between the two sides at the narrowest point to the plastic. Using a ruler I calculate the difference at about 5/8” + from side to side.
    Mike
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  15. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks House Ape

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    Hey BykMyk, the tiny black serif typeface you've decided to use is still readable against a dark gray background. Maybe if you made it a little bit smaller and less black, it would disappear altogether. :rolleyes

    David
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  16. BykMyk

    BykMyk Been here awhile

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    ok :lol3

    Sorry, I've been copying it in from Word and didn't realize it was that hard to read.
    Mike
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  17. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks House Ape

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    Much Better! :thumb
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  18. DiabloBlanco

    DiabloBlanco Intl' Hops Inspector

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    I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence, but is it possible that anyone accidentally used the black spacers in the wrong areas to make the bars so offset? *shrugs* just throwing it out there. Mine line up fine. But I'm sure everyone did it right...
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  19. F800 Rob

    F800 Rob MotoInsight

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    That's my thought as well. Once the next shipment comes in, I'm going to pull a set and do a video install on an F650GS Twin.

    The Chrome / Nickel ones are coming the in the next shipment! :evil
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  20. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    "Next shipment"
    :ear
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