F800GS Pannier design considerations.

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by RedHawk47, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. blender

    blender Just another rider

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    I'm not so sure, altho it'd be interesting to see.

    I had a set of the Micatech Pilots on my R12GS. The LH bag wrapped around the exhaust with (what looks to me like) similar clearance. I never had a problem of overheating in the LH bag. Of course, I never rode inside the LH bag either... ;)

    I'm sure an aftermarket pipe, being smaller, would give more clearance and airflow around that area.
  2. innovathinker

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    I made my buying decisson based upon this thread, with quality, durability, and overall width a fairly big factor for me. Price was not a factor for me.

    I bought the 8" Jesse's (sarfari) with inside liner bags. Installation went smooth and the fit was pretty impressive.

    One minor inconvienance is you have to drill and mount the strap hooks yourself.

    The gas cap is *very* close to the bag and you have to "tilt" the bag when opening the gas cap.

    Since the bags are higher than the seat, if you have a passenger the bags will cut into thier legs, on long rides with a passenger I expect this to be a problem without a solution.

    Both the mounts and the bags are well made. Taking the bags on and off is pretty easy.

    My $.02.
  3. CrazyMike

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    Interesting...I have not had either of these issues.

    For refueling:
    Are you saying that you have to open the side case, loosen the clamping device and swing the bag away to refuel??? This doesn't seem right. I've had my Jesse's since January and I've never had to perform this to refuel.

    JIC, I've never had to open the lid either. Just fuel`n' go.
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  5. innovathinker

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    No, it just means I have to push the bag over about 3/8", or I can open up the case cover. I have the bags set as far back as possible.

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  6. innovathinker

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    The passenger issue may be complicated by the Sargent seat, which is wider and puts the passenger about 1.5" further back than the stocker.

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  7. CrazyMike

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    Very odd. Have you talked to Rick at XplorerMoto? If so, what did he say?

    I don't have any issues refueling no matter what position my 10" Odyssey's are in. I wouldn't think this problem would be isolated to the Safari panniers only.
  8. swolf

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    YES YES, finally someone else with the same problem. My Jessie's have the exact same problem re: the gas cap and jessie box. it bothers me as who know what will happen if the bike goes down on that side.

    Months ago (2 days after I received the jessies) I called Rick but he said that he had never herd of anyone else with the same issue.


    Go to, post 109
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9502356#post9502356
  9. CrazyMike

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    Do you have the odysseys or safaris?
  10. rockinrog

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    Months ago (2 days after I received the jessies) I called Rick but he said that he had never herd of anyone else with the same issue.

    Did you Email them pictures? I am sure they would be interested because thats not how they are supposed to be.


    Go to, post 109
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  11. Mariner55

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    Hello,
    Is it possible to place some spacers between the mounts?
  12. innovathinker

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    [/quote]

    No, as I don't think there is anything that can be done - absent a new mounting system. To me it is a minor inconvienence. The rest of the designed seems pretty good, and I like the fact that you can move the bags front to back.

    I just wish the entire system was lowered by about 2", which would have eliminated these issues, and helped with weight loading.

    "Hello,
    Is it possible to place some spacers between the mounts?"


    I don't think so based upon how the mounts attach to the frame, and how the bags attach to the mounts.
  13. innovathinker

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    Well, I took a few more pics to demonstrate the issue. I don't think there is any way to attached the mounts or the bags incorrectly, but I've been wrong before...

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  14. innovathinker

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    tighter shot:

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  15. grandpa_ken

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  16. M N B

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    It's hard to tell from the pic, but the bag looks crooked...
  17. blender

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    Okay, I'll jump in here.
    I *just* finished installing my Jesse Odyssey II bags on the F8GS. With the RH bag in the forward position things *are* a bit tight but no problem opening the gas cap.

    There is more clearance than the photo shows.
    Edit: Maybe not *that* much, but there's there's a few mm around the area. Certainly enough clearance.
    [​IMG]

    The install instructions are crap, so go back over what you did. Post a photo of how you installed the bag mount brackets. As MNB said it sure looks like the bag is crooked.
  18. rockinrog

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    I sent a link to this thread to Rick. This is his reply.

    Roger, I had the local BMW dealer say they had a simular issue a couple of weeks or so ago. I went by to look at it & here's what I found. The bags are adjustable, up and down. They had put on the delron blocks on the bags, tightened them down & didn't do any adjusting to them. When adjusting the bags, 1st leave the bolts that hold the delron to the bag very loose. Then attach the bag to the mount. Next, position the bag (up or down) where the gas cap opens without interference & tighten the crank down tight to hold the bag in place. Then adjust the delron at the bottom of the bag to fit the lower mount & tighten the attachment bolts. This will ensure the bags is up high enough to clear the gas cap when opened. Once this was done, no problems.
    I hope this helps others as well as myself.(I have a set coming)
  19. blender

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    Yeah, what rockinrog posted. My big mistake when installing previous pannier systems is not leaving things loose until I'm *sure* things fit correctly.

    Believe me, if there's a way to screw it up I usually follow that path. You can't make something idiot-proof because nature invents a better idiot.
  20. innovathinker

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    I don't think this will work, since only the bottom blocks are adjustable, the upper one is fixed (at least is was on mine, which are Safaris, not Odessys) and thus sets the height of the bags on the mount.

    As I said, I can open the gas cap, but only if I "tilt" the bag a little when opening the gas cap. The rubber mount on the upper gives it the flex to do that.

    The only difference in setup I can see is how hard you tighten the crank, which brings the bags closer to the frame, and the gas cap. I have a tendancy to tighten things down a bunch.